Suspended for the wrong reason.

Discussion in 'The Rant Section' started by negiqboyz, May 22, 2013.

  1. negiqboyz

    negiqboyz Well-Known Member

    My wife was called to school today because my 6 years old daughter (first grader) was violent towards her peers. WTF

    According to my daughter, a white boy who is a third grader tried to grab her lunch and pushed her to the ground. He then tried to kiss her as a way to say sorry so she punched him in the face and kicked him in the nut which left him crying in pain. My daughter was subsequently suspended and held back from her last class field trip this Friday to the zoo.

    My wife told me that the boy is twice her size and tried to "kiss" her which prompted her reaction. We sent her to Taekwondo school to learn to protect herself and I found her action appropriate. Right now, we're still waiting to hear back from the principal for the final decision because we definitely will not let it slide on this one. The white kid walked free when he instigated this whole things; come on .. is that right? Who's the real victim here??
     
  2. surplusletterbox

    surplusletterbox Well-Known Member

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    Two wrongs do not make a right. The correct action when her lunch was grabbed and her pushed to the ground was to immediately report the matter to a teacher with witnesses. Taking matters into your own hands and retaliate is not acceptable unless serious risk of injury is possible then you may control the situation by reason of self defence. You should get a copy of the school's policy on bullying and what steps a child is supposed to take when bullied. If the school does not have this policy and made this policy known to the parents then the school is failing its duty.
    Also you must make a record of this event and monitor this situation with other parents. Join up a parents' association if there is one. If that boy is bad the bad situation will repeat and a pattern of bad behaviour will emerge from eye witness accounts.
    The benefit of your daughter walking away to report to a teacher:-
    1. Stops worse injury by further fighting which can get out of hand and escalate.
    2. You would not like a school to loose disciplinary control which it will if all children retaliate for all actions and bullying.
     
    #2 surplusletterbox, May 22, 2013
    Last edited: May 22, 2013
  3. ralphrepo

    ralphrepo Well-Known Member

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    I disagree with Surplusletterbox; we're talking about a little girl here. IMHO, she was simply defending herself against an unwelcome sexual advance; what she was taught to do by her parents when someone tried to 'bad touch' her. She does not need to be a victim first nor would the school lose disciplinary control because of it. After putting the smack down on the boy, she can still make a bullying complaint; ie. "...he tried to kiss me so I let him have it; oh and BTW, he also stole my sandwich..." If anything Neg, I would have filed a police report. One of the things that really gets any school's attention is when the cops are involved, especially if it involves an allegation of a boy trying to kiss or touch a girl in an inappropriate manner. In other words, make them aware that the whole world is now watching them and waiting for their response. THEN... they would probably do the right thing because too many people are now aware of it.
     
    #3 ralphrepo, May 22, 2013
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  4. Normally I would agree that she defend herself, but defending against sexual advance? I don't even think any 6 year old kid knows what the word "sexual" even means.... And bringing the police into this? For an issue between 6 years olds? That's kind of taking it far.

    Her defending herself is fine imo. But the way her parent approached it is really what I don't understand. I'll probably get the "you don't get it until you have kids yourself" excuse, and I get you want to defend your child. But to make an assumption while hearing only one side of the story is idiotic. Sure, you trust your child more, and sure you should listen to her. But if you don't care to hear the whole picture, how will you confirm that your kid wasn't the instigator? If I have a child, I'd like to know if my kid was an instigator or not. If he/she was, I can take measures to make sure his/her attitude isn't translated into his/her teens, and onwards. If he/she wasn't, then I'll work with the school to make sure that policies are implemented so that such actions do not occur in the future for other kids.

    As for calling the cops, the cops won't do shit, and it sure won't as hell make the school a better place. It'll probably just attract negative attention, and lower the quality of the school.

    Anyway just IMO.
     
  5. negiqboyz

    negiqboyz Well-Known Member

    Okay .. everything is settled now. Thank you God!!

    The principal admitted to the error. According to the boy's teacher, he's a trouble maker in class. The yard teacher and other students also defended my daughter stating that he pushed her down, grabbed her lunch, made fun of her, and eventually tried to kiss or put his face close up to her before she struck him.

    While I am fine with the decision, I'd like to see the boy get punished too. He started all this. It ruined my daughter's last few weeks left of school. Anyway, my wife just let it slide since my daughter still attend the school next year. She hesitates to cause too much trouble and there are only two weeks left of school.

    @Dan .. you'll be surprised how much a third grade kid knows these days with such huge exposure mass media. I am shocked that my daughter is learning "fraction" in math and she's only in first grade. She also has to go online and search for facts in additions to hardcover books on an assigned endangered species animal for her book report that has a minimum of 10 pages. This is public school so I assumed private ones probably push even harder. With that being said, don't underestimate how much a third kid knows ..

    @Ralph .. I'd would if things weren't resolved in a fair manner. I am not saying my daughter shouldn't be punished cuz she did hit him. The boy just couldn't walk free like that as if he's the victim. Anyway, I am happy .. glad the skills she learned were put to good use. I have enrolled her for meditation summer camp at the monastery so hopefully, she's even more discipline and all .. lol
     
  6. turbobenx

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  7. negiqboyz

    negiqboyz Well-Known Member

    Yeah .. hopefully, the boy learned a lesson not to pick on younger kid next time.
     
  8. xaznxryux

    xaznxryux Well-Known Member

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    I agree with Ralph. When the girl is pushed down and had her lunch taken, she should have went to report the kid. But when the kid tried to kiss her, that is when you HAVE to fight back. That kid need to be taught a lesson, if he can do something like this now and get away with it, what will happen in the future? Negiqboy's daughter has every reason to kick him in the nuts for defending herself.