Do your classmates all look at you, when the teacher talks about Communism?

Discussion in 'Chinese Chat' started by joceyz, Jan 21, 2007.

  1. joceyz

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    Why are they so ignorant of the fact that China is more of a Capitalist country than Communist?!?
     
  2. dim8sum

    dim8sum ♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪....

    ^Yeh I get the feeling that people do, but it may just be paranoia. And it always seems to be portrayed in a negative view (maybe it is or isnt but both sides should be explored)

    There was this one time a teacher of mine, tried to make China seem bad because we were increasing demand on copper, like we werent allowed to because copper was for the western world
     
  3. Breakdown

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    hahaha ^^ nice post
     
  4. joceyz

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    But have you notice that the social studies videos on China all depict a biased view of the country--for instance, all they would focus on are fields of rice & other crops, homeless/hungry elderly people or babies, and of course Mao Zedong & his Communist party. One particular example of this occurred last Friday, when my S.S. teacher showed a "China" video: it contained only 5 minutes of Chinese big city/skyscrapper scenes out of the entire video's 30 minutes, and the rest was all on poverty & Communism. Now, what is up with that? Why are they trying to paint awful pictures of China in the minds of America's youths. I mean, there are various high-populated and well-developed cities in China, including Beijing, Shanghai, Suzhou, i could go on and on... In all, I really think the makers of these videos need to update them, because China has vastly improved over the last ten years.
     
  5. Taxloss

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    It didn't happen at my school when this was the subject for Modern History. Thought the teacher and the textbooks gave views from different points (i.e. Western, Chinese, Chinese Overseas viewpoints) and the teacher also stressed we had to understand the historical context. Was the only Chinese in the History classes but no one especially looked at me when this subject was brought up.

    Perhaps because most of my classmates knows roughly the differences between the HK chinese and the Mando chinese?

    Edit: It can ofcourse depend on the school (can they afford updated textbooks? Are they conservatives or liberals?) and in which country you're living?
     
  6. Liquifier

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    Well, they need to understand that China is ECONOMICALLY capitalist but POLITICALLY communist.
    Most of my classmates are Chinese so I don't really get that problem.
     
  7. razorw

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    Eh, its all the propandga machine that was still around up to the 80s or so. Wait about 10-15 yrs, and I think most kids won't even realize that China was once communist.
     
  8. surplusletterbox

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    Once you move away from the special economic development zones you will know a big difference. Indeed once you look at the law, constitution, the decision making process and the involvement of the communist party , you will notice huge fundamental differences that are the major key differences between communism and capitalism e.g. you cannot own freehold land, land is state/collectively owned which is not a free market capitalism and is most definitely communism. The extreme form of capitalism exists in Disneyland in Florida where on the Disney owned land this is exempted from the law e.g. there is no state safety inspection of the entire 300 acres. However this form of capitalism also removed democracy and imposed a system of dictatorship as it is in China where the power rests with hands a board of supervisors composed of Disney allies. Here is then the irony! This is indeed similar to the model in the China's special development zones.

    As to the accuracy of the text book and the teachings, of course, the text books are written by "guests" and not by authors "in-land" therefore there will always a difference of perspective. Additionally all educational materials are specified to different level of detail in a syllabus. For example, if I draw an analogy with maths, in a low level, the maths world exist only of + and - which is not a true reflection of the world , then at a higher level there comes division and multiplication, then comes fractions and geometry .. in its most detail level today we have complex numbers, quantum maths. Likewise in Chinese economics the basic level of education states that it is an agricultural "third" world country which it is as is Russia. Out of a 1.2 billion population, vast majority still earn a dollar a day, most still use a collective commune system. However as you move up to more advanced text books and level of understanding you drill into the special development zones as well as the recent changes in the last 20 years especially in the free market flavour of communism.

    Finally there is also human instinctive factor to always simplify complex understanding into simple messages and simple contrasts. For example, in the reverse the expression of the streets of the west are always paved with gold which is a simplified construct which we know is clearly not true once you know the detail. No one in the western world is poor or the state welfare system makes you rich which again is not true.
     
  9. jnetcube5

    jnetcube5 Well-Known Member

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    i don't think there is a problem in my school since most of the students are chinese.
     
  10. hoho87

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    not really
     
  11. Happened to me in my AP Comparative Gov't. course.
     
  12. amano.ai

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    I don't think so maybe because I'm at the end of my studies -unsure
     
  13. MissCheekS

    MissCheekS Reconnaîssant ❤

    My classmates look at me every time the teacher says something about Chinese but i don't care lol.
     
  14. Simonly

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    lol @ miss angie cheeks
    samething here
    in my history class when we talked about china
    they all look at me every time something bad happens in china history like ima do it
    plus im the only chinese person only other asian is a korean buddy
     
  15. xiaojia

    xiaojia Well-Known Member

    lol.. my teacer doesn't talk abt communism.. so I wouldn't know
     
  16. wind2000

    wind2000 Self Schemata

    A lot of them are very narrowminded, hence they like to look at anyone's culture different than them. Its only human to do so.
     
  17. ch0ps7ix

    ch0ps7ix Well-Known Member

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    no because the school i went to majority of students were asian then white and then other .... black was minority :p
     
  18. mooiced

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    They usually references communism to the Soviets. Rarely the chinese. ...hmm
     
  19. lee-lee

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    back in high school, anytime something was brought up in class that had anything to do with anything asian, everyone would turn to me. in my high school, my sis and i were the only two asians. some guy once asked me to teach him how to say stuff in korean b/c he was doing a project on korea. when i told him i was chinese, he was like "so"?
     
  20. mooiced

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    some people are soo ignorant that they don't even know the differences between asians..sigh...being that ignorant is not bliss