I figured why not make a new thread for the sole purpose of talking about guns when there was a mini-gun-forum type thing going on within the Virginia Tech thread? I think the statement, "guns don't kill people, people kill people", is very true. But keep in mind what Fearless said, appropiate restrictions would help lessen the availability of guns to certain age groups and whoever else, I do think that getting guns nowadays is very easy. Some people will argue that owning guns is for self-protection and very necessary and question what will happen if tight restrictions were to be enforced while there are other people out there who just have a fantasy where they kill people. It's a really tricky subject and I applaud all the politicians who are able to handle it well.
Guns are USED to kill ppl. So if you have a short fuse, don;t get one in the house or you might kill ppl with it
easier && faster with gun when in rage With other weapons, it is harder and it takes time, so ppl have time to cool of and realise what they are about to do, hopefully stop...not like the korean dood
what about knife? it is easy to kill people to.. or some chemicals you can buy of stores... put it in school kantine soup and everyone dies!
well its true that anything can kill but its WAY easier to kill with a gun... if i wanted to kill a 6 foot 9 muscle builder by paper cutting him to death while its still technically possible i doubt i would get very far... on the other hand if i had a shotgun, he'd be wasted in about 2.2 seconds. Even with a more dangerous weapon i doubt that the korean dude wouldve done nearly as much damage at virginia tech if he had a knife
Yes, guns don't kill people, people kill people. But ever wonder why there isn't many gun shootings happening in locales with stricter gun controls, say Hong Kong? The thing is that guns are not accessible to most people, while many may argue that there is always a "black market", but one still needs access to the black market. It's not as easy as many think to tap into the "black market" to get something if one doesn't have the proper connection. And the argument about knives is just stupid. How many people could be killed with a knife before people will try to neutralize the attacker? Generally, people cannot stab properly to kill, however a shot can be fatal in MANY places in the body. I just think the lack of gun control sucks. Not into the whole "we need our rifle to hunt" argument of the NRA, what are you? Nethanderals? What need do you have to hunt besides that stupid trophy of getting a 27 points deer head?
^ Not true, if gun is SO easily accessible regardless of a ban, anyone care to explain why Hong Kong or Taiwan or other Asian countries don't have as many shootings (including the school kind) as the States? There IS a problem brewing when one can buy a gun at a supermarket without much scrutiny.
^ Yeah, but sure as hell the death rate on such matter is much lower. So I wouldn't be complaining about people not able to handle guns.
Very unrealistic comparison considering the history of guns in the U.S. as oppose to Hong Kong. I mean, if we're talking about turning back time and changing gun laws then sure, the U.S. could learn a thing or two from other more stable countries in regards to gun deaths. But we're not. It is what it is and guns will always be around and in the hands of criminals because money isn't the only way to get a hold of a weapon. As long as people are able to buy weapons, criminals will always have an opportunity to steal one, and yes, people do break into houses just to look for and steal weapons here in the U.S.
r u sersious? death rate in china is lower than canada?? they exectute thousands yearly....most excuted country
^ Yeah, but where does those weapons in the houses come from? Because they were purchased legally. And if that doesn't sounds like a twisted end of fate that those supposedly legal firearms end up in the illegal market, I don't know what is. Yeah, of course it's easy to gain access to guns in the States illegally, because there are SO MANY legal ones on the market available by stealing and such. But stricter gun laws will deal directly towards reducing the amount of firearms in the country. @kdotc: execution is an entirely different matter than being murdered. It is a punishment, the fact that US locks up around one third of its youth population may be why there isn't much more use of electric chair and lethal shots. And no, that is not what I am talking about by death rates, I am talking about killing out of malice.
Guns should have tighter restrictions because, like hiake said, if Cho used a knife instead of a gun, he probably could only kill/wound one person, two at the most. The fact that guns are so readily available are scary because the motive behind it is the controlling factor and people really can't be trusted. Therefore, something should be done about the gun control in the States.. although I don't think that'll ever happen.
^ Yeah, we all know it's not going to happen, but it doesn't stop me from b!tching about the ignorance of the pro-gun argument... =_=b
^ Well, by your logic, then people reserve the right to shoot others to death... right? They didn't specify what can you shoot... it may as well be people... RIGHT?
