first person with a 'RTL'/non-permanent identity card here !!!!! 'RO' RTL + Born Overseas... the difference between Permanent and Right to Land is very small, most u wont notice.... 1) Cannot vote in HK (local) elections... 2) If u break the law seriously...u can be deported back to somewhere else. anyone knows more mayor differences?
born in holland... don't have one... asked about some info for applying one but it seems to be difficult then... yet some friends have them... but what i hear is that rules changes often... so if your lucky you can apply and get one.
Has anyone heard anything about if people that don't usually live in HK and didn't get there ID during role call, and also been that long since it was called. That they may never be able to get it? My rolecall was around 2005 I think and I have never been back since -unsure Just there are rumors about this and I am not sure if it's true as there nothing I found on their website. >.<
Rules don't change very often....there were mayor changes in 1997!!(handover) and in 1999(ROA court cases) but since...rules haven't changed.... only the implementation of regulations sometimes have changed(>>seems more strictly now) U can ask ur parents about this stuff(if they have idcards)..... If u currently hold a HK Permanent ID card, u can change it the next time when u are back(within 30 days of arrival the next time). The site about the reissue excercise is www.smartid.gov.hk here you can find a bit more info about the new id card. There is is no mayor issue about being late back in HK. if do not hold chinese nationality(HKSAR Passport) and didn't return within 3 years of your previouw visit. Then u will lose your voting rights in hk -_-2 and your 'Permanent 'HKID status, it will change from HK Permanent identity 'with right of abode' to >>> HK Resident with 'Right to Land' with almost the same privileges, except for voting and passport rights.. (but this won't happen if u (applied for and) hold a HKSAR passport and return to HK) COOL....haven't heard anyone before about macau!!! Macau should have the same id card system as in HK? didn't realise there were also macau'ers here with PA!! I don't think u reside overseas -unsure but in macau self ??
Thanks for the info. My mother is the one that was telling me she heard from so & so that they keep changing the rules -what? I did look at that website and didn't find no info on what I wanted. I found info was, only when I enter HK within 30 days I need to replace it or forever forfeit. I do have a permanate 3 star ID and was born in HK so have birth certificate, however I don't have a HKSAR Passport as I got an UK Passport. But I guess as long as I was born in HK that is all that matter.
I have a HK ID card with 3 stars on it. but I don't know if it is Permanent or Right to Land? I am not so familiar with it. But it took me a lot of time to get it. When I was 11 or 12, my parents and I went to HK for my junior/child HK ID card. Those people from the ID department said that the chance that I will get this card was 1% because I am born in Holland and haven't lived in HK for 7 years or something like that. A friend of my mum told us to contact a travel agency in Tai Po, who can get me an HK ID card if we pay a sum of money (1000HK dollar). I don't know how but they arranged a meeting in the same ID department as in the beginning and within 2 weeks I got my approval for the HK ID card and had made my picture etc. All they need, were some prove that my mother has lived in HK for 7 years or more(secundairy school diploma's, working prove etc.) Don't know how they did it:S kind of weird, in the beginning they told us it's almost impossible but then this travel agency arranged all these things for me and I really got my chinese ID card:S
If u have a ‘LATE’ ID card application, see this link: http://www.smartid.gov.hk/en/replace/late.html and…the fine of HK$ 5000 is rarely enforced. Just say that u were not in HK. I know some people in HK who were 6 months late without excuses and didn’t got fined. U have a birth certificate, so it doesn’t matter when u return. In de boxes ‘claimed nationality’, always thick ‘Chinese nationality’ …although u don’t have a HK passport, all Chinese hong kongers have with retrospective aspect acquired Chinese nationality(mostly without knowing). If u don’t like this, u can always apply for ‘change of nationality’, but then u will lose the right for HKSAR passport and will have u return to HK every 3 years... If u thick in something else, and the IMMD official notice this doesn’t correct your ‘fault’ it could cost you ‘stars’ and ‘resident status’. No offence to ImmD officials, but the people who work at the registration department don’t have a great command of the related laws and regulations =P Due to savings and cost cuts, most registrations clerks aren’t ImmD people, but just civilian administrative staff... you will have to know your own rights by yourself. When I came there for my application, the ‘officer’ didn’t recognized the ‘approved’ letter from ImmD headquarters….and handed…and handed out a new application form :s As I said earlier, not all ImmD officers are good informed about rules and regulations. Especially when ur talking about ‘overseas born special cases’. Its mostly a tiny group of officials at HQ who has the knowledge. Don’t wurry, its not bribery.......=P. People(or travel agents) may help you with it, but officially it isn’t allowed (by law )to do so(give advise and help) if u aren’t a lawyer. I'am not sure, but i think ur in category 2 ( C).....Children of Chinese HK parents born overseas, who were self HK permanent resident at time of ur birth. it a difficult (way of) application, but not impossible =P You will have to know the rules and regulations better than they do....... Sometimes, ImmD staff don’t know the rights(or existence) of this category very well, so be aware of mistakes in the future. look for the symbols on the card, does it says: (xxxAFO)? A=right of abode, F= female, O= Overseas, 'Permanent' and 'Right of abode' on the back?
I am not from hong kong, but i have one. I was born in the uk. I think its dependant on the stamp your meant to apply for and receive in 1997. Once i was 18 i flew back to hong kong to get my id card. My card allows me to live and work in hong kong, but i don't have the right to vote. Ah well, I don't care if i can't vote.
i have heard about this 'stamp' thing....many people went back for it befor 1997. its not only the voting part....u can use the much shorter queue and quicker 'HK residents' counters or even e-channels
yaaa i have onei guess... dunno how my parents did it but they said that they worked hard to get the card for me... (no black market xD ) i was born in germany .. so dunno how this happened.. xD but they said soething with 1997 , that we were in gernay before 1997 etc.... didnt really undersand xD but now i have 2 identity card ^^
your parents did all the work!! its quite bureacratic.... whooo.....that sounds weird....2 id cards?? do u have 2 different names and id's?? double spy -lol?? happy u
I was born in the UK, my mum was born in HK and my dad in China. I did the whole process of returning every to HK every 3 or 4 years about 3 times and went back there last year. However my parents decided to give up last year because the person dealing with out application at the immigration place just told us to give up saying our chance of success was low due to the fact that i hadn't lived in HK for 7 years. Personally i don't understand why i'm not given HK citizenship seeing as other countries will grant citizenship even if it's only your grandparents that were born in the country you're applying for citizenship in.
