I would have thought so too, or at least evil_mui's But apparently evil's around PA longer than most of us -lol
nuh uh...im still before mui mui ...but yeh mui mui was wayy before you and baby...before it was me and mui mui.....
I am mandarin, the reason I don't think you are Chinese because you look different and you hold different values from us. The behaviors of yours are more like ancient Chinese than us but that doesn't prove anything, you learn it but you are not the one who create it. It is us mandarin who wrote the history. Some people mention we have moral problem well we could have, although I haven't seen any cases so far, but you guys cantonese have a lot of moral problem, too. Just check out how the locals of the countries where you cantonese settled call you snakes and mouses! I am ashamed of being a Chinese because of you. And it always is a nice thing to say Chinese should unite, but it never happens, no explanation needed here coz you all know why! You cantonese have different blood from madarin Chinese, you look different from us, admit it, yes, we are poorer as a whole, but that doesn't mean all madarin people are poorer than you, modestly speaking. And yes, I pissed you off, you internet gang is the real coward, the only thing you can do is annoyying me.
that is the rudest thing I have ever heard. First of all, cantonese people are chinese people because they are all from China. In china there are tons of dialects and not everyone speaks Mandarin but are they not chinese? Second, we all have ancestors from China so dont' say our blood is different, that is very ignorant. Also, you did not write history, the chinese people wrote history not mandarin people. Some cantonese people think they are superior, I do not agree with that. However, some mandarin speaking people think they are superior and I dont' agree with that either. Chinese should be united, but comments and attitudes like yours is what's keeping that from happening. I am ashamed that you are chinese and that you despise other chinese people. ________ BUY VAPORIZERS
yea i never really encountered this kind of situation. maybe its because cantonese are the minority at your mando school
I think every regional group has its own thinking. Like hongkies from HK would think they are the shitz, while Taiwanese hang out with only Taiwanese, etc. Just to let you know, I've heard that there is sort of an assumed pyramid when it comes to chinese. Basically Taiwanese on the top think that they're better than everyone else and hates on the Cantonese. The Cantonese, especially those from HK think they are God's gift to Chinese hate on people from mainland China, etc. The lesson here is, can't we all get along and STOP with the discrimination and ignorant? If we continue with stuff like this, we're literally getting nowhere.
Just so you know, Mandarin is in fact NOT an ethnicity. It's one thing you like to be identified by your language, but it's quite another to actually IDENTIFY yourself as a language. Yes, I speak Cantonese, and Mandarin, and English, and Japanese. But I am none of the above ethnicity (the correct answer is Chinese, very much to your spite eh?) So somehow you know EVERY SINGLE person in China, who speaks Mandarin, think in the EXACT same manner as you? If that's the case, wow, that's ignorance to a new height. Cantonese-speaking populations perhaps DO hold different value than Mandarin-speaking people, but first of all, does Canton, as a prefacture of China, not part of China? If you INSIST on dividing the land of China by the dialect a region speaks, there's NO SUCH THING as China anymore since nearly EVERY SINGLE REGION has their own dialect. Are the Shanghai-ers not part of China because they speak Shanghainese? Just because there are bad seeds in the immigrant batches doesn't mean anything. Plus it's not like I care for bigotry comments from xenophobes. Of course, your post demostrated the impossibility of uniting clearly. Yes, my blood is blue. And look, I speak in a tongue you don't understand! You are seriously considering burning me at stake now aren't you? I live to serve. And annoy. Glad to be of service. But how ungraceful you are in your compliments!
well i never encountered something like this before but i know for sure if some mando kid said that i would friggin jump their ass xS
Lol, what a troll, esp for a first post. Guess I'll entertain you and throw in a couple of choice words for you as well. Please excuse my angry language. First off, Mandarin speakers did not write Chinese History you stupid fuck! Go read your history more carefully before spilling that sewage from your mouth. Ancient Chinese language resembles Cantonese. Written recorded language contain words that Cantonese use in their speech today which Mandarin speakers don't even have in their vocabulary. Most likely the emperors and government officials during the Han, Tong, Song, and Ming dynasty all spoke & used a form of Cantonese. Second of all, when your cantonese father of our country of China, Suen Zhong San (yeah, he's Cantonese), formed our country, there was a vote of whether Cantonese or Mandarin should be the national language. Cantonese only lost by 4 votes. If those 4 votes went through, you fucking bastards would all have had to learn Cantonese. Mandarin only became popular after this. You're ashamed of being Chinese because of us?!?!?! hahahahaha, that's the most retarded thing I've heard in a long time. You're lucky if WE are not embarrassed to be Chinese because of you mainlanders. I always correct people when they ask if I'm Chinese...I always tell them I'm an American Born Chinese because I'm not the same bastard that you are. I could go on for hours, but I'm tired and I'm going to bed. I hope the OP does reply to my thread so I can ream him/her some more, but you're probably to chicken shit to do so.
You're just messed in the head. Every single person looks different, and of course that includes you Mandarin speakers. Does that mean Mandarin speakers who look different are not considered Chinese? Same thing goes for values and whatever else applies. And excuse me? You say you're ashamed of being Chinese because of us, but you have no morals yourself for saying all that bullshit. Everything is based purely on your opinion, and since you're voicing it as a fact you're only going to make others ashamed of being Chinese because of you. We don't unite because of losers who think the way you do. You pissed people off, I'm glad you realized that. If you're not a coward yourself, go and debate more over this topic, because frankly people who have opposed your argument are obviously in the lead.
Hahaha...yeah great...So you're saying that I'm not Chinese? Okay...it doesn't matter if I'm not Chinese, I'm pretty happy being Australian. But if you say that, you're also saying that my Mum, Dad, Maternal Grandmother and Great Grandpa are not Chinese. My Great Grandpa and Grandmother can from mainland China but guess what!? They speak cantonese!! Not like my Great Grandpa can hear or speak anymore... Here, I reckon there's a lot more Canto people than Mando (as in here in AUS). Most people I know that can speak Mando can also speak Canto. People must also realise that some of Malaysians, Vietnamese and Singaporeans are also Chinese...If I'm not mistaken, they all speak Canto as well... **Don't ask why some Malaysians, Vietnamese and Singaporeans are Chinese, Long ago, the Chinese just left the country and went there...but if you immigrate to another country, you're nationality still remains with that country...right?** So...technically speaking, Canto people are also Chinese and just because Canto isn't the official language of China, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I'm sure Canto is spoken in many parts of China, Australia, America, Malaysia, etc.
Lol....yeah people always assume mandarin as chinese but i think both are as important....Don be pissed, just blame the fact that they have no cultural or even basic knowlegde and they should be ashame of themselves...My reccommendation for those idiots, dig a hole and jump in
while I wholly support you not getting worked up by his comment Some of the posters remarks imply an opinion that they think canto is better than mando That makes them just as bad as the guy who made the annoying remark Being chinese is more than just a language, heck I know people in Australia who are fully chinese and can't speak anything but english but they still consider themselves to be chinese
What An Insultt!!! WOAH!!! Who is this IDIOT? Mandrin and cantonese are both sub-categories in the chinese language. having a rich and multiple sub-languages make our race more unique right?If you're ashamed of being chinese when it's what makes our culture rich, STOP being a chinese. Just because you can't master cantonese doesn't mean you can bad mouth it. What's with the diff blood? We're all humans. Even between races from different countries, like africans and americans, what seperates us is only a really small fragment of our genes. Since we're all chinsese, that makes us even more alike right? CHINESE is a race which speaks different sub-languages. Get off your high horse. Just because it's not the common chinese language spoken doesn't make it lower than mandrin. All chinese languages IS NOT the international language. Does that make our chinese language less than english? No. Just that english is the more common language across the globe than chinese. That's the diff between languages. And if we're all here so cowardly, how does that make you better? You are here bad-mouthing cantonese. We take the research proof from the internet. Where did you get your load-of-crap information from? Any studies to prove we're "different blood" or we're "snake and mouse"? When you bad-mouth cantonese you bad-mouth chinese as a whole. You should be ashamed of yourself. If you're a proud chinese you should be proud of the wide range of dialect we have. And attempt to learn them, not bad-mouth them. The one who knows more is the ultimate victor. This lousy misconception you have stops you from learning more, giving others more advantage over you. Come complain and throd on the cantonese speakers when you have proof that we're worse. It's just a language. Anyone can learn and speak it. You're making too much a deal out of it.
No we don't think we are better than all Mandarin speakers, we are better than Mainland China Mandarin speakers from big cities with attitudes and poor home teachings and values. I personally have nothing against any Mandarin speakers outside of that group. In fact, Mainland Mandarin speakers from small villages and towns are quite humble, polite, and welcoming. Especially the ethnic minority groups in southwestern China. I also think the majority of Taiwanese are also great people.
How can you be so ignorant and rude to sign up on this forum just to come diss and discriminate against us Cantonese people?! The reason why PA exists in the first place is to obviously establish a unity among all Asians - not just Chinese people - but everyone to come share their experiences and celebrate our pan-Asian identity, as a whole! Cantonese and Mandarin people are different from each other by dialects, but as observed from the broad spectrum, we are all still Chinese. And how is it that Cantonese people can have different blood than Mandarin people? This just shows how ignorant you are because you cannot determine someone's race/ethnicity just by observing someone's blood alone (it's something I learned at school)! Two people with two different ethnic backgrounds - African and Chinese (for ex.) - can have the same type of blood and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Aside from that, you blame Cantonese for dividing up the Chinese race and that we're the direct cause that Chinese people in general cannot unite. Well buddy - that's where you've got it wrong. It's selfish, judgmental people like you who choose only to focus on our differences and "flaws" in order to establish a basis for your irrational argument. It's these types of people with condescending attitudes about who and what are considered supreme that truly destroy our opportunity for ultimate unification. It's the same idea as racial discrimination - this is why, even up to this point in time, our world can never be unified in racial harmony among all groups of ethnic peoples! One thing I enjoy about being Chinese is the diversity and richness of our culture in sublanguages and in other things - occasionally, values and customs that differ to some extent. If you cannot appreciate what being Chinese is all about, then you are no different from a racist prick. Even though you are Mandarin discriminating against another category of Chinese, that's like discriminating against another race as well. And above all, we are all ultimately one human race! For crying out loud, learn to appreciate differences in culture, customs, and languages!!
heated argument over here? zhihaox you just don't deserve to be here....go and sign up somewhere else..
