New Computer, What parts?

Discussion in 'Science, Technology & Car Chat' started by nunubutt, Aug 18, 2007.

  1. nunubutt

    nunubutt Well-Known Member

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    So i get to play with a new computer. i've got these parts in mind.
    i've got lined up


    intel e6600 (fsb @1066) [ really couldn't figure out why the e6750 is cheaper but with higher fsb @1333mhz also at 2.66 rather than the 2.4 of e6600]
    ASUS P5N-E (mobo shows only dual channel up to ddr2 800, guess im going non-dual channel)
    Corsair 2x1gb @ 1066mhz
    nvidia 8800gts
    antec sonata III w/ 500watt (not sure if fthats enough)


    trying to save money now, wondering if SATA cd-roms are worth it or not. so far some reading suggests maybe not.
    if i save money going regular ide optical drives i might be able to throw in a good heatsink or else imma have to use stock HS.

    thanks for listening, any suggestions? -scooter
     
  2. WinterSky

    WinterSky Well-Known Member

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    think u could throw out prices you've found or what u expect to pay for each piece? ur case gets iffy reviews... small problems but u might as well get a case that you won't get pissed at... hear the front USB ports are really tight
     
  3. zoom_zoom

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    don't get a DX10 capable card right now 'cause apparently there's a new DX10 format coming out and the two DX10's don't work with each other....
     
  4. nunubutt

    nunubutt Well-Known Member

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    hm good point guys, see i havn't been reading up.

    zoom zoom any source on that DX10 news?

    my list is here

    $00....Power Supply
    115....Antec Sonata Case
    200....view q19wb Monitor
    170....ATI Radeon x1950XT
    125....ASUS P5N-E Motherboard
    230....e6600 Cpu
    110....seagate 500 sata Hard Drive
    150....corsair 1066 Ram
    045....thermaltakke big typhoon vx HS
    030....lite on sata DVD-Rom
    037....lite on sata DVD-Writer
    Mouse 0
    Keyboard 0
    Total 1212

    **the reason for choosing the Antec Sonata is its supposed to be quiet so i dunno.
    anyhow hope someone can really enlighten me on the difference between the intel core 2 duo e6750 and e6600. The E6750 has higher clockspeed @ 2.66 vs. 2.4 and faster FSB @ 1333 vs 1066 but on mwave.com its actually cheaper. Thats throwing me off a bit.

    -thanks everyone.
     
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  5. nunubutt

    nunubutt Well-Known Member

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    Oh, forgot to answer some suggestions

    I usually dont use front I/O ports i think they make the case look ugly. I usually route things through the back. Also i did switch the vid card down because i went and looked up at direct x 10 cards and yea, when Direct X 10.1 comes up...not gonna be helpful. So yea. Good thing ZOom Zoom pointed that out or else i'd have screwed myself.
     
  6. dim8sum

    dim8sum ♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪....

    check this out, dated for july, but nice bit of reading

    http://www.techreport.com/etc/2007q3/system-guide-0707/index.x?pg=6

     
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  7. nunubutt

    nunubutt Well-Known Member

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    Dim Sum thanks for the post but check this article, i think i'll just go dx 9

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20070815123340.html

    "At SIGGRAPH 2007 conference Microsoft announced the details of the new DirectX updates version 10.1. They pointed out that to ensure full support of DirectX 10.1 you need not only to install Service Pack 1 for Windows Vista, but you may also need to replace a graphics card. Contemporary graphics accelerators from Nvidia GeForce 8800 and AMD/ATI Radeon 2900 may not support all the new features added to Direct3D 10.1.

    Next-Gen web-site made certain things clear thanks to their phone interview with Microsoft's Sam Glassenberg, who said: "DirectX 10.1 fully supports DirectX 10 hardware. No hardware support is being removed. It's strictly a superset. It's basically an update to DirectX 10 that extends the hardware functionality slightly."

    According to Sam Glassenberg, DirectX 10.1 will be fully compatible with all graphics cards supporting DirectX 10. He told that the current updates are very similar to those performed for DirectX 9 back in the days. All the company wants to do now is to increase the API life cycle. This statement was addressed to majority of worried gamers who got the impression that Microsoft announced GeForce 8800 and Radeon 2900 based graphics cards may become useless after the new updates have been pushed. However, Sam confirmed that existing graphics cards may still not be able to use all the new features of DirectX 10.1. At the same time he stress that applications designed specifically for DirectX 10.1 are very unlikely to appear, because overall, the updates aren’t that critical.

    So, although DirectX 10.1 will support current DirectX 10 graphics hardware, today's DirectX 10 hardware will not be able to support all of the features of DirectX 10.1, which includes incremental improvements to 3D rendering quality.

    However, the gamers who have already acquired contemporary DirectX 10 graphics accelerators shouldn’t be too upset. Upon developers’ request, version 10.1 sets whatever was available in the previous releases as a standard. As for the innovations, among them are 32-bit floating-point operations (instead of 16-bit ones, used today by default) and obligatory support of 4x FSAA."
     
  8. nunubutt

    nunubutt Well-Known Member

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    Another question about ram, should i be matching Processor FSB with RAM FSB? e.g. E6600 FSB is 1066 mhz should i buy ram that runs at 1066?
     
  9. runtohell121

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    hmmmm... why not just buy a premade computer and then just change the video card? a premade computer with intel core duo 2 is about $600-$800... and with an AMD X2 processor is only about $400-$600 mainly with dvd burner and other things already.
     
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  11. dim8sum

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    no i dont think so

    as long as its ddr2 and the motherboard supports it, it should be fine. if you look at the article i linked to they pair a Core 2 Duo E6600 with OCZ Platinum DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM

    although i know some memory have compatibility issues due to the voltages they run, so check out the combinations on google to see if people have been having problems
     
  12. Sephiroth

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    believe me=]
    6750 is better!

    its cheaper mainly becuz of AMD?
    i think they are trying to get more customers~~
     
  13. nunubutt

    nunubutt Well-Known Member

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    Hahahahaha no way in hell i'd buy a dell if i knew how to build one. Just not possible. 8300 isn't really gamer quality and 80 gb is like so 6 years ago. it just aint gonna happen.-scooter
     
  14. runtohell121

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    lol... btw the quad cpu is the only thing worth it and the 2gb ddr ram... i know the vid card and 80gb isnt enough for someone like you lol. a 500 gb harddrive is only about $100, and a vid card which you can upgrade is about $200 or so probably. The total comes up to be about $950? remember it has a quad cpu not a duo core cpu.

    http://reviews.pricegrabber.com/processors-retail-box/m/31693422/
    Quad CPU Alone $279. Unless your location has Fry's Electronic Store which sometime its on sell coming with motherboard for about $299.
    At Fry's price CPU only http://shop2.outpost.com/{a8hBNtwxD...hFEjiM3qw**.node3?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
     
  15. nunubutt

    nunubutt Well-Known Member

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    i would love to have that quad core deal right now i guess i can wait and im not in that much of a rush.
     
  16. dim8sum

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    you wont gain too much from quad core, unless you have a lot of heavy mutli-tasking needs

    most games will run fine with a dual core, and the limiting factor will most likely always be the GPU
     
  17. Knoctur_nal

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    Good advice here so far.
    To add, be careful with the asus mobo if u are going with OCZ mem.
    Last i heard, OCZ had issues running on asus mobos. Be sure to check the mobo mem compatability list.
    And to add to dimsum, unless you are building some kinda dooms day device, quad core is not necessarym, for now.
    What will the primary use of this system be?
     
  18. The_Jelly

    The_Jelly NSFW? :P

    Most people hardly even fully utilize the potential of dual cores, why get quad cores then?
     
  19. liquidzyklon

    liquidzyklon Well-Known Member

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    Haha most average people don't even fully utilize their single core CPU unless they are gaming. Other than that they are just surfing and watching videos.

    But nunubutt mentioned using the Sonata case because it is suppose to be quiet. But I don't think you are going for a "silent" solution so there's not realy need to stick to that case as there are other options. The reason I say this is because the video card you have isn't that queit so it won't matter too much if you have a queit case or not.

    But overall, it looks like a respectable system.
     
  20. missingeye

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    The prices you list are pretty high. if you visit forums like hardforums and anandtech and if you have time, you can easily get a mobo + q6600 for the price you are paying for your combo right now. Further, if you have time, wait for deals. You can get the Antec p180 for under 100 easily, about 60AR on good deals. That's what I would go with.

    If you don't game or don't plan on OCing then going with premade will get you the best deal.