Race Vs Ethnicity

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by smallrinilady, Oct 10, 2007.

  1. smallrinilady

    smallrinilady Well-Known Member

    I'm confused
    In the past a lot of survey forums ask you if you are [Female] or [male]
    and your ethnicity [asian, european, african . . . etc]
    but lately i've noticed an additional question


    Question one: Race? [Hispanic or Latino] or [Not Hispanic or Latino]
    Question two: Ethnicity [Asian], [American Indian or Alaska Native], [Black or African American], [Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander], [White (Peoples of Europe, the Middle east or North Africa)]


    Couldn't they just put in Hispanic or Latino into another category of Ethnicity?
    And what is the difference between Hispanic and Latino
    And what if you are African, but not American, doesn't the second question kinda exclude them?
    (sorry this one was funny to me)
    And I can't believe they use the terms "White" and "Black", I got this off a American University Statistics Survey
     
  2. zero_c

    zero_c Well-Known Member

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    Whoever made up that question is a moron. Hispanic and Latino are ethnicities, not race. A Hispanic/Latino can be of any race, like a black Hispanic to a white Hispanic. There are no difference between Hispanic and Latino, just that certain people to be called one over the other.
     
  3. yeah its silly
     
  4. smallrinilady

    smallrinilady Well-Known Member


    just to make sure I'm understanding the terms correctly
    So I would be
    Race: Canadian
    Ethnicity: Chinese
    ????
     
  5. hiake

    hiake Vardøgr of da E.Twin

    I am not sure if the following is correct, but it is MY understanding.

    Strictly speaking, I believe Hispanic ONLY includes anyone of Spanish descent, thus Hispanic. But Latino indicates Latin Americans (aka those from Central America).

    Non-American Africans would be part of the "Black" group wouldn't they? That's my speculation. And yeah, that's one moronic racist survey.

    Race and Ethnicity are the same thing. HOWEVER, Race/Ethnicity is not the same as Nationality.

    So to revise:

    Nationality: Canadian
    Race/Ethnicity: Chinese
     
  6. smallrinilady

    smallrinilady Well-Known Member

    that's what i thought
     
  7. tomatoman

    tomatoman Well-Known Member

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    that makes more sense.....guess the surveyor must be trying to impress or trying to be fancy
     
  8. turbobenx

    turbobenx .........

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    they gotta kno their stuff before putting it in.
     
  9. xmichelly

    xmichelly Well-Known Member

    yeah that's what I always thought ..
    but I've never really given it much thought because people like to overcomplicate things these days
     
  10. chickenutbread

    chickenutbread Well-Known Member

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    yes, nationality: where you live/citizen of and ethnicity/race: bloodline

    i can't believe they actually put the words "white" and "black" on the survey; what happened to the colors of the rainbow like red, yellow, orange, blue, purple and green :p?
     
  11. smallrinilady

    smallrinilady Well-Known Member

    yea totally
    so us asians are no long considered yellow?
    middle eastern people are white? i thought they were brown
    and funniest are the red Indians (native americans, first nations of canada, alaskin natives, and inuit)
    would the mayan people be considered red too?
     
  12. zero_c

    zero_c Well-Known Member

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    Hispanic and Latino are the same term.
    http://www.occ.treas.gov/Cdd/newsletters/summer05/cd/ethnicityandrace.htm
    Hispanic or Latino. A person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race. The term “Spanish origin” can be used in addition to “Hispanic or Latino.”

    I'm going to have to disagree. Race and ethnicity are not the same. Here would be my classification of a Chinese living in US.

    Nationality: American
    Race: Asian
    Ethnicity: Chinese
     
    #12 zero_c, Oct 11, 2007
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2007
  13. dim8sum

    dim8sum ♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪....

    id go for something like that

    but heres a definition i found

     
  14. xiaojia

    xiaojia Well-Known Member

    race and ethnicity.. pretty vague and confusing terms. i'll leave that to the experts.. haha. anyway.. if by the definition above, i'll say that 'chinese' is a race, while 'teochew' 'cantonese' etc are ethnic groups.

    'asian' is definitely not a race.. cos there exist many races within the 'asian' category who differ from one another in terms of biological traits. It is also not a ethnic group, since we also differ in culture, location etc.
    Asia is a continent. 'Asian' is a demonym refering to ppl from Asia.
     
  15. zero_c

    zero_c Well-Known Member

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    Asian is a race. And Chinese is not a race, its a ethnicity.

    Asian - A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Phillipine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam.

    Everyone in the countries listed has very similar traits, black hair, brown eyes, fair skin, small nose, and small eyes.

    Russian, who lives on the continent of Asia will never call themselves Asian.
     
  16. tree

    tree Well-Known Member

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    uhh.. all these is really confusing... WHY would anyone want to ask these sort of questions together anyway?!?!
     
  17. xiaojia

    xiaojia Well-Known Member

    No they don't. Do you actually live in Asia or have been to many places in Asia to ascertain that observation of yours?

    edit: to be honest, we, people who do live in asia don't usually identify ourselves as asians either.

    and you need not answer my qn cos by ur comment, i'm quite sure you don't live in asia. and if you do.. you better not be too proud of your insensitivity to differences despite living in close proximity to others of varied races and ethnicity.
     
    #17 xiaojia, Oct 13, 2007
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2007
  18. hiake

    hiake Vardøgr of da E.Twin

    Not even all Chinese exhibit those facial features... let alone all "Asians"... -rolleyes
     
  19. xiaojia

    xiaojia Well-Known Member

    ^ jackie chan must be non-chinese then.. lol