early man vocab

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so i have to do this project thing about early man...and we have to find a word that has to do with early man from A-Z(1 for each letter)....so can u guys help me out? she said i can use the computer....
Thanks!
(sry i might have put this in the wrong section)

#1 asiangang, Oct 22, 2007
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Early man? As in Neandertals???

Can you be more specific or give examples of what you are looking for?

#2 hiake, Oct 22, 2007
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^um...yeah that 1...just anythin that has to do with it...like...um...paleoanthropologist or sumthin....lol
early man as in...um....the australopithicus,homo habilis...so on?...im not sure that answers ur question though...

#3 asiangang, Oct 22, 2007
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So NOT Neandertals... I don't think they are homo something something yet -sweat

What level is this assignment? It may affect the type of source(s) you should be flipping through.

#4 hiake, Oct 22, 2007
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^not sure what level...just simple words...dont have to be THAT complicated....
and yeah it includes......its all the way to homo sapiens isnt it?

#5 asiangang, Oct 22, 2007
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Okay... but this assignment is quite timely then... Since I just read on SciAm, this article/blurb:

Cave Speak: Did Neandertals Talk?

Discovery of the human variant of the FOXP2 gene in Neandertals suggests they may have had language skills

German researchers have discovered Neandertals apparently had the human variant of a gene that is linked to speech and language. A team of scientists, primarily from the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, made the discovery during efforts to reconstruct a full genome of the extinct hominid.

The findings push back the estimated timing of the FOXP2 gene's selective sweep (rapid spread of a gene mutation due to the survival advantage it conferred) from 200,000 to 350,000 years ago, when the common ancestor of Neandertals and humans roamed the earth.

"From the point of this gene, there is no reason to think that Neandertals did not have language as we do," says Planck Institute geneticist Johannes Krause, a co-author of the study published in Current Biology. "However, many other as yet unknown genes are involved in language, so in the future these will have to be found and looked at in Neandertals."

The human version of the FOXP2 (short for fork-head box P2) differs from that of the chimp (the closest living relative of humans) in two places along the genetic code, causing differences in two amino acids in the protein coded by the gene. FOXP2 was first tied to language in 2001, when a mutation in it was shown to affect a person's ability to speak.

To determine which version of FOXP2 Neandertals carried, the research team extracted DNA from a well-preserved fossil found in the El Sidrón Cave in northern Spain. This marks the first time a particular gene was sequenced from a Neandertal's nuclear DNA. Although DNA taken from the cellular mitochondria (energy centers) is typically easier to access, fossils are often contaminated by human contact.

The team took steps to ensure they were sequencing Neandertal DNA and not modern human residues. Among them: sequencing specific parts of the Y chromosome and comparing them with those of modern human DNA. The samples were distinct, indicating that they were dealing with an authentic specimen.

When the sequencing was complete, the Neandertal FOXP2 showed the same two mutations that the human gene carries (compared with the chimp version). The group did not find any genetic evidence of interbreeding between humans and Neandertals, leading them to conclude this incarnation of the gene must have propagated and spread prior to the genetic split of the two hominid species more than 300,000 years ago.

Simon Fisher, a molecular neuroscientist at the University of Oxford in England, says the new work shows a better method for dating the evolution of certain genes, as opposed to inferring from changes throughout human evolution. He was more cautious about its link to Neandertal's speaking ability. "We do not think of FOXP2 as 'the speech gene,'" he says. "It is instead just one piece of a complicated puzzle, which likely involves many different factors. … The FOXP2 gene has been around for a very long time, found in similar form in distantly related vertebrate species, and it may be important not only for brain development and function but also in other tissues."

Krause says the Planck team will continue to cobble together the Neandertal genome and chart the evolution of other genes by comparing Homo sapiens with Neandertal DNA. Some other candidates include ASPM, which is tied to microcephaly (a condition when the head is disproportionately smaller than the body), and MC1R, implicated in skin pigmentation.

Source: http://sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=BA019C7E-D363-62CB-84C6C9B9ADE601B6&chanID=sa003
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The thing is, if it is not until the Neanderthals did scientists find evidence of possible language/speech ability, it is unlikely that earlier "human" forms are capable (or shown/proven to be capable) of speech...

#6 hiake, Oct 22, 2007
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^thanks
according to my teacher, the neaderthals were the first to think?...lol...and thier the first to bury the dead...
but i actually need like...actually words...1 of each letter...like for A i got archeologist....

#7 asiangang, Oct 22, 2007
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asiangang said: ↑

^thanks
according to my teacher, the neaderthals were the first to think?...lol...and thier the first to bury the dead...
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Yeah, but the problem being, scientists suspect (with good reasons) that there exists "human" forms before Neanderthals with a depressing lack of archaeological records (as you have said before, Neanderthals are believed to be the first form to perform burials of their deads)

If you don't mind me asking, what course is this assignment for, the context or subject may shine some light as to what your teacher is expecting.

#8 hiake, Oct 22, 2007
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think she is asking what grade are u in...excuse my directness....

that way, she can use the appropriate words...

#9 adrianc, Oct 22, 2007
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adrianc said: ↑

think she is asking what grade are u in...excuse my directness....

that way, she can use the appropriate words...
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I will make sure I use multisyllablic words that nobody, except for the audio recording of the MW, can pronounce -devil

#10 hiake, Oct 22, 2007
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it is Floccinaucinihilipilification, isnt it? hehe

#11 adrianc, Oct 22, 2007
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adrianc said: ↑

it is Floccinaucinihilipilification, isnt it? hehe
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I don't think it applies to the context, but it did cross my mind -devil

#12 hiake, Oct 22, 2007
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hiake said: ↑

I don't think it applies to the context, but it did cross my mind -devil
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@hiake...can u pronunice this word and upload it ??? hehe

#13 adrianc, Oct 22, 2007
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i thought they they just grunted and killed animals.

#14 master_g, Oct 22, 2007
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master_g said: ↑

i thought they they just grunted and killed animals.
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i thought they also pound on their chest and "pick up women" to their caves

hehe...I think I finally got "smarty pants hiake" with the word Floccinaucinihilipilification....

seriously though...think this assignment is about grade 7...max grade 8

#15 adrianc, Oct 22, 2007
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adrianc said: ↑

@hiake...can u pronunice this word and upload it ??? hehe
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I can, but I won't. -tongue2

adrianc said: ↑

i thought they also pound on their chest and "pick up women" to their caves

hehe...I think I finally got "smarty pants hiake" with the word Floccinaucinihilipilification....

seriously though...think this assignment is about grade 7...max grade 8
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LOL, "pick up woman". But whatever way you want to think, I don't plan to share my voice over the internet. So count me out and defeated if you wish.

#16 hiake, Oct 22, 2007
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errr....women....more then one right???

hehe

#17 adrianc, Oct 22, 2007
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adrianc said: ↑

errr....women....more then one right???

hehe
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They usually pick up woman, singular, on one outing, since it may be kind of challenging to "pick up" multiple women and walk back to the cave -tongue2

#18 hiake, Oct 22, 2007
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hiake said: ↑

They usually pick up woman, singular, on one outing, since it may be kind of challenging to "pick up" multiple women and walk back to the cave -tongue2
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errr...men got two arms ....plural...hehe...strong enuff to put one girl over each shoulder and walk back

#19 adrianc, Oct 22, 2007
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adrianc said: ↑

errr...men got two arms ....plural...hehe...strong enuff to put one girl over each shoulder and walk back

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But Neanderthals still need one free arm/hand to fight off other males who try to steal his spoils, so still singular

#20 hiake, Oct 22, 2007

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