Vancouver Taser Death - DISCUSSION

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by hkm91450, Nov 18, 2007.

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RCMP's use of tasers?

  1. The RCMP's use of tasers was unjustified

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  2. The RCMP's use of tasers was justified

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  3. Not sure

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  1. hkm91450

    hkm91450 Well-Known Member

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  2. wind2000

    wind2000 Self Schemata

    RIP and condolence to the mother and family of the victim. Hopefully the truth of what really happened will be known. The police definitely should have used a show of force instead of tasering him. I think the police officers should be reprimanded since discharging a 50000 volt is enough to make a person skip several heartbeats and tasering him twice is just irrational. :(
     
  3. lee-lee

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    effin sick!!! i am SO sick of assholes who have careers that give them authority to act over others and they don't bother to understand. instead, they just preassume that every fucking person is a is bad. i'm not attacking every person but just a-holes like these ones. was a taser shock seriously needed? there were four of u!!! 4! the four of u couldn't take down one man?! now, this poor guy lost his life. and his poor mother... that was someone's child and probably someone's father. not being able to speak english is not a crime and it does not make them a bad person.
    i'm sure these cops aren't gonna get in trouble cause that's just the way it is. they are gonna just use some shit excuse like, "given the circumstances, taser force was necessary" and under that, they should add, "because these pussies couldn't think of a better way to deal with the situation"
     
  4. fearless_fx

    fearless_fx Eugooglizer

    yeah this is seriously fucked up. Taser advertises their weapons as 'non-lethal' and 'completely safe'... it just makes me wonder how many more people will have to die before someone realizes that they aren't and bans this shit.

    honestly, i cant think of a single reason why tasers are necessary to the police force.

    all the police needed to do was use a show of force like wind said. there were four officers, all they had to do was pull their pistols and demand that the man get on the ground. if someone is pointing a real gun at you, you have a tendency to listen.

    the belief that tasers are 'non-lethal' mean that police are using them far more often then they should have to. putting 50 thousand volts into a human being shouldnt be a first resort, it should be the last or second last.

    in the vancouver airport incident in particular, being as there were four officers on the scene, there could have been many, many alternative ways to deal with the man. Instead they decided for the simplest option, and tasered him, ultimately leading to the man's death.
     
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    damn fucking cops tasering someone to death, they are just soo careless...but then usually justice goes in their favors cause they are the so-called "enforcers" and yea since they have a pretty big group they coulda take down the dude without using such "un-lethal" weapons but i guess they just do it anyways...
     
  6. "there's three languages spoken now, english french and taser"

    you forgot a fourth: "im gonna shove 50000 volts up your anus" language.

    shit... sometimes i think cops are just retarded i mean.. some of them make the dumbest decisions ever... this is even worse than the "dont taze me bro" footage...
     
  7. kdotc

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    fuk the police!!! and rip to the innocent kid who got shot to death because he was armed with a hairbrush
     
  8. i actually cried when i heard the news last week... i mean imagine how his mother would feel when she's found n realised her son's dead... i don't know that guy... but i think for someone so concerned abt his mother he can't b bad... n he doesn't deserve to die this way... but at least it wasn't a long n painful death... let's hope he's gone to a better place... RIP *amen*
     
  9. hkm91450

    hkm91450 Well-Known Member

    ^^And lets hope the RCMP get DINGED and are held responsible for what they did -- I am soo sick of all these stories with police etc. getting special treatment and all ........... damn politics.
     
  10. fearless_fx

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    lol it might not have been long, but im sure it was fucking super painful
     
  11. apollon

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    ^ what? he was armed with a hairbrush? (o_O)


    anyways, i agree with all of the posts so far. the man should have been warn before he was tasered. therefore, at least the police (or in this case the "mounties") could have some justification for their hostile and unseemly unhumane method of dealing with the situation.

    however, i do think the real issue here is not the "unnecessary" force of tasering individuals; but whether the police authorities had the reasoning to use it. clearly, in the video and the story provided, the officers did not have a clear understanding of the man's situation and instead of waiting for a translator and then reason with the man -- they immediately resort the border-line abusive method of force. therefore, imo the polices or mounties that are given the authority to use such an immense power; did not demonstrate a clear justification for their action and therefore should be under strict supervision when ever they are force to resort to tasering. (i propose this idea for all police forces that have the capability to use tasers.) and if their supervisor find them using this force with less than STRONG support of justification and reasoning; they should be restricted to never use the equipment again or remove them from their position as an police officer.

    so, imo. the general notion of tasering isn't unethical or even wrong. however, it is the police officers using and lastly resorting to the taser that need to be questioned and/or punished their actions.
     
  12. Flames

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    [youtube]6wYEBd-Mpus[/youtube]
     
  13. MissCheekS

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    Okay....i must say the dude was acting verrry strange at the beginning...i mean who does that???
    but ok....he shouldnt have been tasered....he was raising his hands when the police came anyway so....
    yeah that police officer is a fuck up....

    it surprises me that something like this happened in canada...mostly u hear this kinda shit happen in USA....


    "Dziekanski had been waiting for his mother, who told him to wait in the baggage area. But she couldn't get in there, couldn't get a message to him, and finally went home after being told he never arrived."
    well...thats a nice way to handle it....damnnn kill the guy and say he never arrived?
    crap....thats lame
     
  14. BigM

    BigM Well-Known Member

    Apparently the guy had calmed down by the time Police got there... So it was absolutely unnecessary to use the Tazer. The police should have accessed their ways to calm the guy down.. and tazing him was not the best choice-They could have just escorted him away... nevertheless, it is a bad way to die, let him rest in peace
     
  15. shw

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    learn english learn Manderin learn Cantonese learn dutch learn how to avoid tasers.
     
  16. zero_c

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    Okay, its an unfair assumption that bad things happen in US a lot more than other countries. Its due to the bigger media market and Constitution that a lot of these news pop up here and there. I'm pretty confident that a lot more of these cases happening in other countries, just that they don't make it to news channel and newspapers. I traveled a lot and US is one of the few countries I feel protected.
     
  17. hkm91450

    hkm91450 Well-Known Member

    Hey flaming - thanks for linking/uploading the video here - I couldn't find it! Thanks again!~
     
  18. MissCheekS

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    hmmm...well perhaps ur right...but like i said....and you said urself....i always hear this kinda shiet comin from USA...
    && USA has been a bit paranoid after 9/11...security is more strict etc...
    so....
     
  19. wind2000

    wind2000 Self Schemata

    Poor guy, the popos are all big officers and cant even handle 1 guy? Bunch of incompetents. -rolleyes
     
  20. wind2000

    wind2000 Self Schemata

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/11/24/custody-death.html

    Heres another incident. WTH is going on to RCMP? Are they lacking in training or what? This is a disgrace. -pirate