Dunno about you, but I would have a hard time liking this girl back if I was the backup plan. If you are willing to endure the pain, and if it all works out in the end, its probably for your benefit.
So many nice guy is stuck in the friend zone. Dont be those dumb asses. If she repectablely lower ur status from potetial bf to just a guy fdy, u need to do the same to her. U cant not take other womens advise on this matter. Beczu they will all tell u to wait for her. Even ur mother will give u the same bs advise becuz they all believe in fairy tail and how ur "niceness" will win her in the end. I alone with many other guys in this thread will tell u thats just BS, and will not likely happen. So plz, for the sake of evolution and the continuation of the nice guy genes, go search somewhere else. Beside if she really have strong feeling for you, she will be jalous the moment u start being fdyly with other girls. Heck if she really care, she will immedaiately dumb her bf and persuit u.
Bingo, this guy has it all down. Instead of being a nice guy, focus on being a confident guy. Treat people with respect but don't be too "nice", don't be supersize nice just to get approval from people. And also don't accept second class behavior from other people. Only take what is acceptable to you. And know when to cut loses, and move on.
we got a man in the forum. and it is mkf1. mfk1, you're the man! take his advice. let me elaborate on this... don't take advice from a woman about how to attract a woman. do you ask fish how they are caught by the fisherman. fish can't tell you why they are attracted. they can't explain it. it just happens. If women could really tell you how to attract a women, then we won't have women's problems. so, who should you take advice from? a woman or a player who scores with all the women? each one will give different advices. ask the fishermen on how he catches fish.
yes, i hav that experience before too ... she'll definitely be with her bf ... move on pal, you'll find someone better .... for me, there's no choosing, once you make up ur mind, it won't change rite? so it'll be the same for the girl you like ... i know it's mean, but try to accept it, life is so much to learn ...
I think u should stay by her side to encourage and suppport her. To be honest it not easy to find someone who is good for you and to gain their trust and could be friends. I've seen some couples broke up and couldn't be friends, or either of them fancy one other and couldn't get together and talk.
i think you are right, at least for my situation... more and more i think i should just move on... just hard, especially when i see her... it's one of those things where i know what to do, but can't do it...sorta like can't take my own advice...
Starting seeing other girls, you'll find out quickly that this one isn't really so "special". Every girl is different, but not that different. She just become a another girl to you. Your also afraid to lose her, and mess it up. This is what's holding you back. You have to be not afraid to lose a girl. I also think thats why your not pushing it forward with the relationship. You probably got too comfortable in the friends zone. Now I think thats why your stuck in there.
If you really liked her, best is to let her go and let her be happy with her ex... ofc this will bring a lot of pain to u...but its better than being the back up where you are the second choice...