University Education

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  1. hkm91450

    hkm91450 Well-Known Member

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  2. kdotc

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    my life sci degree is getting me no where..i gota get more education...maybe psysiotherapy or chiropractic
     
  3. fearless_fx

    fearless_fx Eugooglizer

    professional degree is essential man
     
  4. DKNY

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    i'm trying to get my mechanical engineer degree, kinda stressful but enjoy the process
     
  5. reno

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    its true (and depressing) to know that most ppl end up in a field very different to what they studied.
    you feel that, it's like a waste of time etc...

    but if u take another perspective, regardless wateva u studied, theres always stuff from that, that u can utliise in ur job. and many times it may be to your advantage.

    plus, it always gives u options later on to change into your original field.
     
  6. make sure your getting an honours degree, also degree dont mean as much now, its about experience.
     
  7. brown_bear

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    ^ tell me about it....coz there's so many people with a degree nows...it doesnt position you to
    be 'above the others' anymore...esp when employers are now saying it aint all about education
    and job experience is important nows =/

    but i do agree with reno that the skills ya learn in uni can be used in most jobs anyways so
    its not completely useless

    and i know where ya coming from hkm..coz i know some friends who have grad from major
    in english and now working in as a trainee manager in a metal company...its completely
    unrelated and does make you think was going to uni pointless....which is in some respects
    but some employers like to employ people with good educational background...and in most
    jobs you have to work yourself up the company...coz its very rare for students to land your
    self with the job you studied at degree i.e. study accountancy at uni and become a accountant
    straight away? no you have to start up as a trainee accountant gain experience to become
    a full accountant...

    not sure if im making much sense here....but oh wells
     
  8. Natsu

    Natsu Well-Known Member

    they say getting a degree puts you above everyone else, but theres so many people taking a degree and plus its not about that anymore, its about your experiences youve got. although a degree, you learn skills which you can draw from and stick it onto your CV.

    but regardless, university life is good ~ meeting new friends especially people from different parts of the world and hanging out together especially in halls.
     
  9. brown_bear

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    ^ yuppp....its costs so muchy for the tuition fees and stuff...but deff. dun regret it....
    so ya should all make the most of it...^^
     
  10. ralphrepo

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    Most kids today are going about the choice of careers in the absolute wrong way; they focus on things like what schools, degrees, etc and then worry about what they will make. That's a bit like the tail wagging the dog. If you want to have a successful life, do the following. First, forget school for a moment. Ask yourself simply "how much money do I need per year to be happy?" Now using that as a basic requirement, eliminate all the academic choices that will not get you that. Many venues in academia are feel good or only sound impressive, but are valueless in the real world economy. I remember many Hispanic friends who decided to take "Black and Puerto Rican Studies" as their major; something that reinforced their ethic pride. When they graduated, they had a degree that was as economically meaningful as a degree in basket weaving.

    The cheapest and most economically worthy degree that I've heard of right now is a two year Associate Degree in Nursing, which qualifies you to be licensed in any of all fifty states in the US, with starting salary between $45K - $70K (depending on region and city). I personally know of some nurses who, with experience, make over $100K a year and only work three days a week. Many of them have husbands who stay home with the kids because the men don't even come close to making what their wives do. Another field that seems to hold endless possibilities too is Physical Therapy, which requires at least a four year Baccalaureate degree, and competition for acceptance into an accredited program is fierce. But once you get out, starting salaries range from $40K - $80K per year, again depending on location.

    Long term, professional track ultimately brings you the most reward, but requires the longest time investment. Medicine and law can be attractive, but can have apparent pitfalls for those that drop out along the way. I once knew a medical school graduate who couldn't finish her residency (internship - clerkship) program. So after a combined eight years of college and medical school, with lots of tuition to pay back, she couldn't get a real job because she was not a real doctor yet. The last I saw of her, she was working side jobs for ambulance companies that did medical transports. Needless to say, she was being paid at a level far below what her earning potential should have been, if only she had finished her residency. Sad.

    The moral of all this is, you have to know what you want, then look at what will be able to give you that, and then realistically assess if it's in you to be able to go get it. It would be unrealistic if you want to be a millionaire brain surgeon but can barely get C's and D's in school. On the other hand, if you're in an academically advanced track, and easily gets straight A's, then don't waste your life studying something stupid like Modern Dance. Whatever one decides, know that you're going to be eating from that plate for the rest of your days, so choose wisely. Here's a hint: you don't have to like it, just take the money that it earns you and then go do shit that you like with it afterwards. ;)
     
  11. 1. as a technical background. what i want to pursue has nothing to do with my major T_T... well, i want to go into executive management of that specific field, but not a specialist in that frield

    2. i dunno, every major has its role in society.

    3. like i said, in it partially of interest, but mostly due to gain a technical background

    4. wanted to be mech eng in HS, changed to comp eng, but didn't take chem in HS T_T, so now comp sci and CCIT

    5. fucked up my first year T_T

    6. no, my decision
     
  12. gawain187

    gawain187 Well-Known Member

    University does have its ups and downs. A degree may seem useless, But it does help increase chance of job if coupled together with job experience
     
  13. matethemouse

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    I remember some of the classes in high school ("ancient science" about the greek tragedies, Humes ect., religion, painting) makes me wonder why. It's not like I can use them in my current college (economy) classes.

    So back to the topic about a college degree we actually had discussed the value of a bachelor/master. Some therories in economy says that the degree have a signal value meaning even though you can't use a religion degree (the first one on the list) when the employer sees that you have a degree the person will think that you are a better employee because you are less likely to slack off/can be more focused (since otherwise you wouldn't had passed the tests) than some1 with no education at all.
    Hope the explaination was clear.

    But I can't stop thinking back at how I will rule the high school classes right now because I know so much and have several ways to look and solve a problem, so going to college helps your average "brainpower"
     
  14. smallrinilady

    smallrinilady Well-Known Member

    I dont really understand some of those pictures from the article

    anyways yea some people are stupid
    they go to study because they are told too

    my friend loved to study, when i was a first year student he argued with me that i should be studying what i have an interest in
    he was in his third year of his english major
    he loved the subject so it worked for him
    he then went on to get his masters
    guess what
    his last year of masters when i asked him what he was going to do next
    he said he was going back to school
    WHAT?
    he had then realized that he can't get a job
    so he decided to go back to college from the start to get a degree in accounting.


    two things came to mind
    "dumbass"
    and
    "i told you so"

    of course i didn't say it



    but some people are fine living simple lives
    one of my school mentors worked as a manager for some of the student offices
    he had been there for 11 years
    he loved it
    he had been offered promotions many times cause he was good at what he did
    but because he was happy in his job he never moved up.
    So after I got my first job out of college I went back to visit him.
     
  15. brown_bear

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    ^ to go right back to college is a little strange isnt it...??...why does he/she not just do one of
    them conversion courses of something....?...and to start from scratch aint it expensive..? the
    tuitions and stuff..??...i dunno i kinda agree with him that ya should study something you're
    interested in....and with english majors it doesnt = to no jobs....ya can go onto teaching english no..?
     
  16. Aoes

    Aoes Well-Known Member

    english majors actually can get jobs... just not in the way i guess he's expecting... truth be told, being able to write in english is highly valued in a business environment, so i don't see how he couldn't have found work as possibly an assistant to an exec =/
     
  17. wysandman

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    I do not think it is useless, in fact if I had the money when I was school I would've gotten a major. It also depends on the major you have, some are better then others.
    Right now, I should go back to school and get my major in Engineering but I have bills to pay.
     
  18. ab289

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    I can never understand why one can't wait to get out of school? I love life as a student ... Got my BS in Accounting as full time student; wasn't ready to go out to the real world. Got my BS in Comp Sci (as full time student) ... had to leave college life and face the real world because parents got tired of paying for my endless college expenses. Started work life ... went back and got my MS Comp Sci (part time). I miss college life ...

    useless of not, go for it. and try to enjoy as much as you can while you are in it ...
     
  19. are you.. all of thee above?
     
  20. negiqboyz

    negiqboyz Well-Known Member

    By university education - I am guessing you're referring to only bachelor and not professional degrees. Yes, indeed a 4-yr degree is WORTHLESS nowadays unless you're in some sort of engineering major. Other majors usually need further education to really go anywhere on the corporate ladder.

    Keep in mind .. these days, it is not about your education anymore; about where you went to school. If you majored in sex education and graduated from Stanford or Harvard, you can still get a good job in financial industry or research firm or whatever without any experience or relevant background.

    The other option is like Ralph said above; target a vocational education where there are always hiring.