undergrad educ is kinda bs - if you put a lot of effort and do a lot of shit besides studying, yes you can gain something from it besides just a piece of paper...
it's comments like these makes me happy to live in Denmark with the free education system (the books still cost a lot though). One of my teachers I had last year was really great. 1 time we were sent home (he stopped the lesson) to study because no1 had read the days text, plus the frequenly comments like "fuck Mankiew" (the author of our book) and "piss me in the eyes"
same for me! my classes you basically go there and listen to them read off the slides! university is basically teaching yourself. you just go to uni for the degree. >.<
to be honest to get free education go to the UK and have residency there... I guess that's why my parents migrated to England for me when my mum was pregnant... You get free education from primary (i.e infant & junior) to high school and college (that is if you stayed in education under 21 years old) For uni you will have to pay at least £3125 per year = 35,090.94 HKD + books each year which constitutes to the average of £120 = 1347.49 HKD BUT the free education means that you get mixed in with all kinds of people or the quality of your local school will be crap (like my high school).. schools in England only accept you if you are within the range of area that the school allows you too unless you lie about your address and use a relatives address... For private education its like £10K a year = 112291 HKD so if i was you i wont rant on the quality of education you get in HK because i have seen my cousin's work in nursery to uni standards.. they are all harder and more resourceful that UK school's and Uni (of course except the top unis which is only like 10 of them) PLUS the UK teachers are too laid back and too lazy to teach you... my education is definitely screwed up even tho im first year uni in UK xD
I mean alot LOTs of professors i had so far didnt care about their students at ALL. Some even cant tech with heavy accent...if u cant understand what he or she is say in class, u hosed or on ur own!
^ hence they put lecture slides up so you can go over what he or she had said... some lectures do put footnotes down for the benefits of people who doesn't understand the accent... thats why uni students have soo many free time, its so that if they dont understand something, they can go and see their lecturer or seminar teacher... its usually the people who teaches your seminar are the most helpful ones not the lecturers.. people are only lecturers is either they just want to continue their research but has to teach people to get to where they wanted so basically the teaching is not their main goal, so of course they are not going to care for their 100+ students in one lecture at a time, too much hassle maaa
^^ Im complete in agreement with ur statement here! unfortunately, no slides for materials in class lectures, either go to office hours for help or hit the books fast -madsign1 guess what....work hard and get out FAST! -out2
^ it depends which uni you are at i guess... im in a crap-ish uni and my lecturers are basicly lazy and don't want us to bother them in office hours hence it goes up on the uni website lol all my lecturers hates meetings so they prefer replying us via emails or during lecture/seminar time :S
yeah, same here, some actually teach and just going to class and listen and read course notes is good enough, so don't have to read text, but some teach, explain, elaborate and still readings are still necessary!
i thought university was something extraordinary but from what i've read,it ain't great. I didn't like my high school teachers at all particularly my chemistry teacher.He didn't explain,just make a pupil read the textbook(learning to read)...haha i hope i will get good lecturers...
University is definitely nothing special. Although if you hated your teacher for not explaining material and just getting people to read the text, that is essentially what all of university is. Its all about self study. Gets especially bad if you don't attend lectures too lol, i've been skipping pretty much every second econ lecture this semester... not really sure what's goin on, but i got all the notes online so imma just study a bit prior to the final and hope for the best. :Talktohand:
I think i cheered too early then.i can't understand why lecturers are paid that much if ain't do anything,oh yeah...it's because they have degrees...
Ph.D's are the way to go. Once you've got that you're set. Just sit on your ass and teach off powerpoints for a few hours a day, go home with 80+ K a year. I'd love to be a prof.
