^ it is kind of hard when all the mainlanders that i have met which is 100+ are all the same :/ or is that just me being that unlucky?? haha
^ ^ ur always taking things too literally and making it out to seem like its just a stereotype and that stereotypes are all lies, i do not literally hate my own race but everyone obviously knows what i am talking about and i'd sure as hell don't need to explain it especially to hongers, you may think its a stereotype but for a fact its not, there's a social, culture and class difference and you'd have to get into china's ecnomics and history to understand it but if you think its all a stereotype then you're def wrong, its a lifestyle and more that would take generations to change. There are obviously educated people who work in offices and such over there but the real economic drive of the country are the hundreds of millions of uneducated cheap migrant workers who come straight outta the farms that get paid 60 cents a day to shovel heels in shoes. If you've ever been to real china other then the showcase cities you would know what i mean.
^ ^ ^ Woah, this thread is like fire now. Like seriously, you make Americans look so bad when some are obviously not fake and ignorant. Although everybody has different opinions towards these situations. But thats the nature of life, there's always some people that just try to act smart and do something you don't like. And that's how Ang reacted, get real man.
yea good answer, get real... -_-2 get real only happens when im faced %95 of the time with china people without a moral conscious. I have yet to tell of about at least more encounters and 10 other friends who have been through similar situations. And Angie just because they are ghetto doesn't make them immune to a bitching , as soon as they've learnt to adjust to the place they are in then good for them and good for us but old habits are hard to change. Now to set things straight, i'm not addressing this to every single person out there but you know what i mean and if you don't you're a freakin clueless liar. to put it in loose easy terms : there are standards in HK no standard in China
Yes, we as humans function differently than others. We certainly may have different characteristics or personalities in which we tend to act. And every place has a certain standard they fit into. I know for sure Ang does not intend to applied this situation to one typical race but there's alot of sterotypes out there. And not everything you hear or see is a sterotype. Plus the fact they are the same race, which is pretty hard to hate your own race, unless it's a joke or you're just a real hypocrite. Sometimes we just gotta think a little more open of what's really going on.
^ They are the product of our society... it's not their fault they act in such a way, they were taught in such a way when they were young For them, it will seem rather unatural to not do such behavior and for us, it becomes the opposite
I was in the mainland and was looking at the mainlanders on what they are doing. Here is my observation. There was a guy smoking, he is almost finished. I see him walk to the nearest garbage can. All seems normal but then. When he was there only 30 cm away, he threw his cigarette on the ground and flattens it. And then happily walked away as if he did a good deed
i was expecting "he threw it on the ground and jumped home" -unsure I FIND MOST OF THEM ARE SELFISH. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYONE AROUND. BUS/TRAIN, ELDERLY WOMAN, no one, and i mean no one gives up their seat. 99.99% OF THEM HAVE NOOOOOOOOO MANNERS
but is that not what all smokers do? although in college we get to have fag bins LOL but out in the streets not everyone waits patiently to go for the next bin around or the next drain.... also whats this about.. ^ ^ ^.... is that people too lazy to quote hahaa
of course stereotypes arent 100% made up...opinions of ppl who hate em are based on experiences of ppl who have met a certain number of them n now have a negative view on ALL of them...aware of that ive never said they all have manners n all that but hey i can def say that in my experience their not all like that...hence i dont like the way EVERYONE is bashing on them... just as much as i hate ppl stereotyping other ppl based on their looks n their beliefs e.g. all muslims are violent, all black ppl steal n all that other shit that made rockxd cried when i used an example abt americans i feel sorry for u guys who hate mainlanders in general now cuz there are so many of them lol... good luck with that! as for me...i know some of them are totally fucked up n unmannered but i also know that there are heaps who are normal n have adapted to the "western" morals... but hey those are MY experiences OBVIOUSLY just like SOME mainlanders arent unmannered n all the above that ang said....but not ALL right.... so u "GET REAL" n god.... u are too stupid to c that i was OBVIOUSLY just naming stereotypes n stuff that others have to say abt americans geez... u didnt get that? why dont u go dig a hole for urself n go lie in it n cry or something....cuz "i made the americans look bad" lol.... why'd i be against stereotyping mainlanders but be agreeing to stereotypes abt americans btw, i dont think anyone in here could honestly say that im not "open minded"
as i say obviously we know in every race not everyone is messed up , but what i am is talking about the ones who are and the problems with it being society wide, the difference between suicide bombing , stealing and murder is a lesson on manners and being rude which is more then real, if anyone would take a second to read ralph's post or any of mine you would understand its more then just a stereotype. and angie i think you're less open minded then you think you are because you don't seem to put the education and culture on your thoughts , now i'm dead -out2
I wouldn't necessarily say no standard, per se; just a very very low one, LOL... Along those lines, funny story when I was with a HK tour group in the PRC. We were taking a train ride from one point to the next city on our tour. While on the train, we bought some of the box lunches sold by the train's matrons. After eating, we observed all the locals throwing their used boxes and other trash right out the window onto the tracks. Mindful of our manners of course, all the people within the tour group dutifully collected their trash into a nice tidy stack of boxes and waited for the matron to properly dispose of them. She came along and when we handed her the boxes, she promptly took the entire stack, walked over to the nearest open window, and threw them out onto the tracks. Moral here is, when people grow up in a society that expects little from them, then they will give as little as possible. Society is wholly dependent on style of governance; we don't spit or urinate in the streets because the government generally does not allow that. Standing in an orderly fashion or queuing up is a social skill that is reinforced by government insistence. Ever notice how people in HK will queue up without being told to? That's years of social reinforcement. Ever see the clusterfucks that happen as soon as a mainland bus opens its doors? Obviously both are Chinese. Under one system, they're polite and under another, they're anything but. Some people may not want to face up to the political implications, but to me they're obvious and glaring.
^ but what you have to realise is that people do not take into other social factors that causes these facts (rather than stereotypes) to happen, just like cheeks, not saying that she is right or wrong because there's no right or wrong answer to this whole issue it all depends on how we are brought up and what we have been taught in education, manners and life
lol i never said i dont put that in mindddddddddd u just made that up!! u sucks.... just cuz i dotn agree with u guys doesnt mean im not open minded im not here to butt kiss anyone unlike some other person so i just say what i think lalalala
i take it that you was in China taking your tour?? Doesn't China have the $1500HKD fine for throwing out rubbish like HK does? hahaa, that will be one hefty fine if they got caught by someone from the Greenpeace organisation hahaa
cant really stamp that on only mainlanders, ive also seen a fair share of bad hkers especially before sars broke out, shop assistants were assholes, taxi drivers are fags who take longer routes, general hygiene was horrible, and etc But one fing i have noticed is that mainlanders like to push people wen walking in a pack, like in one incident wen i was in movie world in the Goldcoast not long ago and i was lining up to get out of the fkn souvenir shop but this mainlander kept pushing me into the person infront of me.....
