Vancouver Riots

I don't know how many of you have been reading about the sports riots in Vancouver (whose team lost the Stanley Cup) but it is a mess over there right now. The police over there are saying that it was anarchists that were using the sports event to purposely wreck the city.

[video=youtube;4VzOUKODdZ4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VzOUKODdZ4[/video]

I recall years ago, New York City was perpetually in fear of its famous Saint Patrick's Day Parade, whose more than 2 century illustrious history was often marred by drunkenness, brawling, and property destruction. Then one year, a former mayor of New York City decided that Irish pride was not a reason to hand over civil order to parade goers and Gaelic celebrants, some of whom who had apparently thought that it was an accepted rite to be drunk in the streets on New York on St. Paddy's.

Rudy Gulliani, then mayor, instructed the police to purposely violate personal rights and the legal precepts against illegal search and seizure, in the name of public order and safety. His legal reasoning was, that given the shameful history of the "dark side" of the parade, in which revelers prepared for their anarchy by bringing a tremendous amount of alcohol to the event, he simply took their alcohol away from them. Those that steadfastly refused to give up their property were arrested and removed from the streets. By the time they were released by a judge the next day, the parade was long over and everyone had gone home.

I think what many unwary municipal administrators fail to realize is that large gatherings of people can often be used by anarchists as cover to sow destruction. Having a sports event in a large city now dictates having riot police and armored vehicles in the streets prior to the event. It may also mean selectively removing and jailing certain individuals before an event takes place. And, like what the mayor of New York did, it may also mean preventing alcohol, weapons, and other tools of anarchy from arrival to the event, even at the public cost of civil liberties in view of a greater eventual good. In this regard, I really think that Vancouver Police Chief Jim Chu be questioned why his department wasn't prepared, given that these types of disruptions are not new.

 

lol it's funny how big of a deal vancouver's riot has generated, when larger riots in toronto or montreal due to the same reason doesn't stir a bee's nest. i mean we hear it on the news, but it happens so often people are like.. "oh.. another riot.."

during last season's montreal WIN against washington and pittsburg, there was a riot, and most people were like "oh, another one.."..

 

What saddens me even more are these douchebags who are taking pictures of themselves. Even if they didn't do the actual rioting, they are just as worse. Also all the people who stayed to watch, which means harder to keep a area under control and gives the rioters a audience to perform for. They should have all just gone straight home, but instead they thought "Oh cool a riot, let me take pictures and post on Facebook!"

Some people really are not worthy of breathing our air. I was irate during the G20 protests. Even though this is happening on the other side of the country I still feel the same way. Get out of my country and never come back you idiots.

 

hm...

 

I stayed home this whole time because of a final exam Friday morning. I'm not sure if I should be thankful or not that it kept me away from going out (not that I'm a hockey fan to begin with, just watched the game on cbc.ca live stream >>).

Makes me wonder what I missed in '94... because I was too young at the time to know what was going on.

 

This is really stupid of people to do this. Dont people have better things to do on a wednesday nightÉ

 

Many of these incidents are allowed to occur because of cost considerations. Namely, cities don't want to have to spend money in the first place.

But it is exactly that penny wise pound foolish fiscal philosophy that gets these municipalities into trouble. Just imagine if Vancouver had called out all police reserves, and had them blanketing the city (where the sports crowds were anticipated), beforehand, in an overwhelming show of force. Further, if anyone was seen acting out (eg. throwing a bottle at the public televised screen, which some began doing when the Canucks started losing) should have been immediately and visibly, physically taken into custody; this would demonstrated to the public that the city meant business.

The city should have hardened that area at least a week beforehand, and stated from the beginning to all visitors; no alcohol, no bottles, no backpacks, no vehicles. Public transport into that area should only be available to outgoing traffic after the start of the event, and there should be a city ordered curfew for those areas one hour after the end of the event (meaning, anyone caught remaining in the area is subject to arrest without further warning). Also, all visitors to the venue should have to go through police check points, where they need to submit to identification and be digitally photographed to enter. Sounds like a police state, or one of the G20 summit sites? Of course. But I bet that anyone going into that part of the city would be so intimidated that only the extreme hard core anarchist would dare to start any shit.

 

Of course it is. Many people don't realize this, but the best and biggest secret police evidence collection unit is called YouTube. All those idiots who are putting their videos up, where all it takes is a police requested court order to obtain, are immolating themselves and their friends on these social sites. Of course, the police in the west don't actively use the internet like the police in China, but there's nothing that says they cannot do so passively. Additionally, most if not all large metropolitan police departments employ documentation units that video and record these events for later analysis, be they for training or evidence purposes.

So yes, there's going to be a lot of surprised faces opening doors in Vancouver in the near future.

 

try looking at the soccer riots in europe..its nothign compared to this

 

LOL, I just click the HK Flag because most of my forebears are from there and I have a special affinity for the place. Despite US citizenship and political affiliation, emotionally, I'm a Hong Konger at heart.

But regarding the riots, the fault lies 99.9% with the Vancouver police and their absolute lack of forethought. Considering that having this type of riot in their city isn't new, ie. it had happened before, one would assume that the police would be diligent enough to prepare for that type of possibility.

Their police chief and mayor should both be tossed out. Maintaining civil order should be considered City Governance 101. Their grade on this real life test? Big time F

Some ideas that could have helped:

[video=youtube;dmuyLIrSjxI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmuyLIrSjxI&feature=related[/video]

[video=youtube;QSMyY3_dmrM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSMyY3_dmrM[/video]

[video=youtube;RkyLWlX4-mk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkyLWlX4-mk[/video]

[video=youtube;etv8YEqaWgA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etv8YEqaWgA&NR=1[/video]

 

These idiots have no idea the level of destruction they have caused their own city... there were vids where these skater people were just hopping on the riot bandwagon.... i am sure they didn't even care about what it was for. Nonetheless... all the stores have surveillance cameras and thousands of people have taken pictures and video. More than enough evidence to put these idiots behind bars


example 1 of 1000000:

 

I bet this asshole's gotta lot of explaining to do. He's face is plastered all over the news; his, ahem... 15 minutes of fame has arrived, LOL...

With all the people here in the PA forums being Asian, I suspect that someone on this forum is having an "oh shit..." moment, as they realize that they know the guy...

 

did u guys read abt this?

 

Green paint tape on a hockey stick...

What's the story?

 

http://gizmodo.com/5812924/how-photos-lie

 

its part of being a journalist, u gotta take things outta context to capture ppl's attention!

 

Hooligans without regards for others' properties, that's all there is to it. Idiotic hooligans riots for winning (Los Angeles), riots for losing (Vancouver).