Area of this shape

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  1. w10_chi24

    w10_chi24 Well-Known Member

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  2. shadowchi

    shadowchi ~~♫ ♫ ♪ Himitsu ♪ ♫ ♫ ~~

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    assume angle is 45

    X = ?
    Y = ?
    Z = 70 mm given

    sin 45 x Y/Z (70)
    Y = Sin 45 x 70 mm = 49.5 mm
    Y= 49.5 mm

    pythagoras
    70(2) - 49.5(2) ---> √ ans = 49.5 mm
    X = 49.5 mm

    So (49.5 x 49.5) x 2 = 4900.5 mm2
    301 x 307 = 92 407 mm2

    92 407-4900.5 = 87506.5 mm2

    Dunno if this is right -mellow

    Edit: n.v.m. this is wrong
     
    #2 shadowchi, Apr 8, 2009
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  3. w10_chi24

    w10_chi24 Well-Known Member

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    yup!! spot on =.= *hides in shame*
     
  4. shadowchi

    shadowchi ~~♫ ♫ ♪ Himitsu ♪ ♫ ♫ ~~

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    From left to right : 301mm
    From top to bottom: 307mm
    Arent it suppose to be the same lenght? cause it's a octagon right :s
     
  5. w10_chi24

    w10_chi24 Well-Known Member

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    regular octagon was ment to have same length ... but this one is irregular
     
  6. Phoenix

    Phoenix *~Though she be but little, she is fierce~*

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    couldnt u have split it up to into 2 trapeziums an 1 rectangle?

    an then find the areas of that an then add it up?
    but that might have taken longer...
     
  7. dim8sum

    dim8sum ♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪....

    this page should help you find the length of one of the sides

    http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/QQ/database/QQ.09.05/robert3.html

    from that you can work out the area of each little triangle in the corners

    then all you have to do is (301 x 307) - (4 x triangle area) = area of octagon

    havent actually tried it so dunno if it works, but sounds reasonable
     
  8. w10_chi24

    w10_chi24 Well-Known Member

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    its really what shadowchi did.. but slightly differ... in the end u wud still get the same answer

    yes.. it would be a longer way as some lengths of the trapezium is missing .. but thank you anyways ^_^
     
  9. dim8sum

    dim8sum ♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪....

    ^ hmmm dunno, shadowchis way assumes an angle, whereas the method (i think) on that page may not require one

    well the way forward is to find the length of the sides and thats all you need to find out to move onto the area
     
  10. njthaman

    njthaman Property of C Mui

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    basically same as shadowchi's... but this is how i'd do it:


    area = (rectangle) - (4*triangles)

    sides of trianges - using pythagoras:

    a^2 + b^2 = c^2 ---> a=b therefore 2(x^2) = 70^2 = 4900

    x^2 = 2450
    x = 49.497 (3 d.p)

    area of a triangle = 0.5ab*sinC

    therefore: --> 0.5 * x^2 * sin90 = 0.5 * 2450 * 1 = 1225mm^2

    total area = area of rectangle - 4*area of triangle

    (301 * 307) - (4 * 1225) = total area
    (92407 ) - (4900) = 87507mm^2

    same answer :p
     
  11. kclee

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    why's everyone making so complicated??
    assuming the triagles are 45 degrees, then the area is rectangle minus square.
    301 x 307 - 70 x 70 = 87507mm^2
     
  12. matethemouse

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    but as far I can see the angles aren't 45 degrees. Returns when I have the time with a better
    answer
    EDIT:
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    My first idea was just looking at one of the edges (since the result should be just this area times 4).
    The problem are the sides h and b. Most ppl here are saying the angles in the hxbx70 triangle are 45 degrees, but that also means assuming h = b with the original drawning didn't said anything about.
    I started to calculate:
    h^2 + b^2 = 4900 <=> b = squareroot(4900 - h^2) , h = SR(4900 - b^2)
    inset them into the equations from the drawning:
    y = 150,5 - b = 150,5 - SR(4900 - h^2)
    x = 153,5 - h = 153,5 - SR(4900 - b^2)

    since h = 153,5 - x and b = 150,5 - y:

    y = 150,5 - b = 150,5 - SR(4900 - (153,5 - x)^2)
    x = 153,5 - h = 153,5 - SR(4900 - (150,5 - y)^2)

    Now we have two equations with two unknown, it is just insetting the bottom equation with into the upper one with y (or the other way) and isolate x or y (a calculator would be nice here). Afterwards find h and b --> find the area of the triangle ect. and finally time the result with 4.
    I'm not going to do that since it be quite nasty to write it all down.

    I hope I didn't made a mistake (correct me any1 if wrong) somewhere
     
    #12 matethemouse, Apr 11, 2009
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