According to dslreports, it seems Rogers in Ontario has managed to throttle BT users even if they use Protocol Encryption. My experience is that my downloads on BT appear to be 50% of what they used to be. My upload is completely fine but I limit that anyways. I am a little surprised that my download doesn't appear to be limited to a specific speed and instead it's a percentage of what it used to be. I used to get an average maximum of 60-80kb/s from TVB series and 300-350kb/s for Naruto/Bleach, but now it's like 30kb/s and 150kb/s respectively. This appeared to have started on Jan 31, 2006. I've been doing some reading on dslreports and some users have suggested a BT client that is in Chinese called Tuotu that seems to bypass the throttling. They claim Malaysians are using it or something like that. I was wondering if anyone here has heard or uses Tuotu and if someone can find out what type of encryption Tuotu uses since I can't read Chinese. I haven't tried Tuotu yet. I would also like to know other Rogers users BT experiences since Jan 31. EDIT: There is an alternate theory that is also supported by some evidence and that is that Rogers is simply experiencing trouble outside of their network. This developed as users did speed test from the web at Rogers' website as well as at other locations. Internally from Rogers' speed test, we do get acceptable near advertised speeds but outside their network, we get like 1.5Mbps when it should be 4+ Mbps for Express users. This theory can also explain reduced speeds, however the Tuotu client is what I'm interested in right now.
I've been getting max. at 140 kb/s for tvb series but running more than 4 torrents at a time. My router keep rebooting on and off. Don't think it's the same problem as you mentioned, but wonder if that also limited my max download. Never tried the other client.
I'm DLing Wise Guys Never Die today and it's been 2 days since I BTed anything (Naruto and Brink of Law on Friday). Either it has gotten worse or the health of the torrent is worse compared to those 2 so it is slower. The health of the torrent is ok but probably not as great relative to the ones I mentioned. I'm getting painfully slow speeds of 7-10kb/s
Since torrent is p2p, its really the popularity of the file. u might want to tweak ur torrent program a bit. Its up to the ppl who is willing to up-upload speeds. The more ppl the more different transfer rates. Torrents = packets/file data sent to u bit by bit. Don't try to over push max connections to peers/seeders cause it will slow ur speed in order to request packets. -shock
I know how torrents work but something is definitely up. Rogers is simply taking different measures than well Bell Sympatico is doing in both Ontario and Quebec. Bell is introducing bandwidth caps again (30gb for Hi-speed, dunno Ultra's) for new customers while Rogers seems to be throttling. They're both trying to control consumer usage so people don't abuse it so bad. I very much prefer being throttled since there should be some way around it sooner or later again rather than have to pay overages. Tuotu may be the way to bypass but I'm still interested in how it encrypts to bypass traffic shapers when utorrent and Azureus both fail. Now I really wish I could read Chinese. :( Could someone who can read browse their site for me and see if their encryption works any different from utorrent/Azureus? http://www.tuotu.com/
I always thought the speed of the file depended on the amount of seeds versus the amount of downloader.
Yes, of course but when perfectly healthy torrents do not pick up speed after several hours of cruising at an unimpressive 7kb/s, something is wrong.
Could it be the tracker? I've been having slow downloads, but then it speeds up dramatically (like from 10 kb/s to 70 kb/s). I have to quit and restart BT. It could also be different peers as well.
That's where the alternate theory seems to fit. When you get connected to peers that are within the same network speeds jump up. I noticed that even Rogers users in the peerslist resolve IPs to the USA and that the peers that give those bursts in speed also resolve to the USA. I've had a friend help me set up the Tuotu client and it doesn't seem to help. I'm about to use a VPN like other users on dslreports have to obtain reasonable torrent speeds now.
Yea it's pretty much confirmed that Rogers is throttling, we're all scurrying off to use VPNs now anyways at least while those are free. We'll have to wait until another BT client comes up with a different algorithm for encryption and hope it takes them some time to crack it again.
I finally got my bro to figure out the VPN for me and now I have acceptable speeds again. I overlooked something in my software firewall lol. And I was rereading the thread, your router rebooting is a symptom of it being hammered by too many connections. I had my utorrent on: 500 global max connections 100 max peers per torrent 4 upload slots per torrent With these, my router was rebooting too. I now use 200 global max, 50 per torrent, and 4 upload.
Another follow up: Speeds appear to be fine now (noticed last night by others) on torrents even without the use of VPN. A theory/rumour was they throttled the other services so they could test a new higher tier service called elite which uses higher speeds and has a higher bandwidth cap. Whatever the reason, it shows Rogers is capable of throttling BT even if you use protocol encryption. I'm just glad I have my speeds back. The VPN method was nice but during primetime it still gets bogged down. Aside: I noticed this post makes it a triple post in a row for me. I'm sincerely trying not to spam, but just want to finish something I started which kinda ended up being a mini blog on Rogers' BT situation. Perhaps the title could be changed to: "Rogers BT Throttled and Tuotu BT Client".
