Chinese Made Products Using Milk Found Unsafe

Discussion in 'Chinese Chat' started by ralphrepo, Sep 26, 2008.

  1. ralphrepo

    ralphrepo Well-Known Member

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    This is a very big and painful lesson for the PRC, hurting not only Chinese children, but Chinese reputation as the Melamine scandal cuts a ruthless swath across many Chinese industries:

    In a rush? For a quick synopsis, just read the red highlighted lines.



    This goes back to what I stated in the other thread, that without an effective system of early warning for its food industry, China's entire food chain is unreliable. As this article illustrates, the effects of this unreliability are far ranged and damaging in ways that people never would have expected. I hope the PRC's central government take this event as a very loud wake up call.
    Further, does the world even remember the Olympics, now? After spending USD$ 40 Billion to put on a show that the world would never forget; spoiled milk, lack of accountability, and sick children is what the world will remember when it thinks of China, 2008. Again, this was caused by willful corruption and greed, and the central government's reluctance to hold local officials accountable, until only after something happens. That, is the Chinese Achilles Heel.
     
  2. Terrible..... and here they are trying to save face with meaningless efforts to ban other scandals when they cant even have top tier officials to overlook manufacturing factories, i just hope this has been a lesson learned and i hope they won't try to "get away" with it again
     
  3. surplusletterbox

    surplusletterbox Well-Known Member

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    Of course it happens and will continue to happen, it is always top priority for Kung Hei Fat Choi , nevermind anything else , number 888 rules the heart and minds! Golddigger is the name of the game. No one is to blame , the whole nation, of course not everyone as there are nice genuine businessmen , loves 888, fat fat fat, it is steep into the culture!

    I keep safe as much as I can by eating non-processed food.
     
  4. dim8sum

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    Ralph if you were the president of the world we would all be saved ...
     
  5. brown_bear

    brown_bear ☆‧° ☆﹒﹒‧ ☆ ﹒﹒‧☆‧° ☆

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    IVE HEARD ABOUT THIS TOOoOOO...I FELT SO SOWIE FOR THE BB'S...
    THE BB'S WHO GOT IT BAD ARE ONES WITH KIDNEY STONES RIGHT..!?...THAS WHY ALL THE
    RENTS ARE QUEUING OUTSIDE THE HOSPS TO CHECK THEM RIGHT..!?..

    I COULDNT BELIEVE IT WHEN I HEARD IT WAS IN THE 'WHITE RABBIT SWEETS' EITHER...
    SO BADD...(N)(N)....


    AND AND THEY HAD FAKE MILK POWDER LAST TIME...THAT MADE THE BB'S HEADS SO BIGG...
    AND THE FAKEYY SOY SAUCE...
     
  6. surplusletterbox

    surplusletterbox Well-Known Member

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    Further to my earlier post, to put in into context, what China is doing in 20 years took other nations 40-60 years to achieve. The so called high western standards took decades of mishaps and disasters to put things right. The legislation and the food standards infrastructure took decades in the west to be what they are today. If you study into the evolution of how western standards came into effect then you will come across the same horror stories which impact China today. Where there is easy money to make there will be massive fraud and corruption. Therefore I am sure China will bring more controls as in the west. Likewise as in the west , deaths and ill health had occurred before the standards came into being. Foods scares in the west is not uncommon place. At the same stage of economic development in the West as is now in China the proportion of scandals is probably the same.

    Likewise in the west they complained bitterly about China's smog but in the same economic development cycle in the west, the cities were also covered in smog and massive pollution prevailed. The west had cleaned up and likewise in time, as was in the west, China will clean up. It is all a matter of everyone going through the same pain and evolution. The kettle cannot call the pot black! The adult cannot call a child to be too short as the adult had once been a child too.
     
  7. THF20

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    This is such old news fm China, 1st off there is toxic milk and then goes on to coffee with same kind of toxic chemical and then goes on to sweets and ice-cream...
     
  8. BigM

    BigM Well-Known Member

    I heard (in the streets today) that the PRC actually knew about this before the Olympics. Can anyone confirm this with a link?
     
  9. Phil

    Phil 香港 PA 社團 揸Fap 人

    yer, they stopped selling those panda biscuits and other products, lol PRC would know bout this but had to announce it after the Olympics , :p, bet they wanted some of the Athletes to use these products so they'll have an advantage pr something
     
  10. ralphrepo

    ralphrepo Well-Known Member

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    LOL... your idea that China can do in 20 years what the west took 40-60 years to do is a rather undisguised attempt at proposing "China" invicta, but may well fall onto its own sword of reductio ad absurdum; that is, should one then take your disingenuous proposal to a final conclusion, in the half century that elapsed then, China should have been well ahead of the west by at least 50 to 100 years; clearly it is not.

    Moreover, the reason that the PRC seemingly gained so much advancement in such a short period of time, is that it had been the victim of bad administrative policy for nearly a half century, artificially stunting its growth. Feeble and ill conceived industrialization attempts (eg. the Great Leap Forward) critically curtailed the PRC's modern development. Since its inception from 1949, the PRC had been kept economically, technologically, and culturally isolated from progressive ideas by a iron fist dictator. The Chinese people too, suffered tremendously under Mao, and not just by simple measure of physical and emotional distress. They were socially and culturally isolated, preventing nurturing exposure to new ideas, resulting in the PRC's total lack of societal growth. Examples of other socialist states remaining under such self imposed intellectual clouds today are the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and the Republic of Cuba. Only upon the death of Mao, and then with the able and visionary guidance of Deng, were the Chinese people able to finally emerge into the sunshine of our contemporary era. Further, despite your scorn and barely disguised contempt for things western, becoming modern in twenty years is relatively easy if one started with nothing and had a proven template as a guide. An example here would the PRC's use of tested western science and technology of a half century ago, to support its recent forays into space.

    In regards to the issue of consumer product reliability too, your commentary is blithely optimistic and claims that the PRC should be allowed at least as many years as the west to finally get its safety act together; this, despite a previous hypothesis that the PRC can do what the west does in only one half to one third the time. And the claim about your understanding of studies in the evolution of western standards sidesteps the fact that such was done in the west without the benefit of present day information technology which the PRC has at its ready disposal. If effect, the PRC today, is clearly in a much better position to know about and effect safety standards changes over any historical comparison to the west. Your apologist idea conveniently ignores that if issues have been presented and are already known in the west (which the PRC avidly copies from), why then were such issues of product or industry safety selectively overlooked? This, to me at least, is a glaring example of poor or wanting governance. To put it crudely; are you going to make the same mistake that I made, after watching me make it? That certainly won't make any sense unless you're an idiot.

    And lest you suspect me of China or Chinese bashing, I'm not. Chinese industries with stellar safety records are apparent the world over. A simple look at areas where Chinese exist (Hong Kong, Taiwan)
    readily evidences that we can easily prosper alongside our western counterpart if provided proper governance. Product safety in such localities are by some measure, even tougher than that of many western nations, and have been regarded as examples of industry standards to aspire to.

    In my mind, this is not an issue vis a vis PRC versus the west; it's an simple question of good versus bad governance. You argue that the PRC shouldn't be held accountable (or at least you seem more than willing to forgive them) while I argue that they, like bad politicians the world over, who hold the common folk fate within their hands, should have their collective feet held to the fire; else they won't have any motivation to improve. Ironically, in this regard, they're exactly like the bad politicians of the west.

    Oh, and BTW, my brother, who is Chinese and lives in Beijing, bitterly complains about the poor air quality there too. Does that mean that he's China bashing too? LOL...
     
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  11. MissCheekS

    MissCheekS Reconnaîssant ❤

    "26 Sept : EU bans Chinese baby food with milk traces and tests other Chinese food. Production of popular sweet White Rabbit halted after tests detect melamine"

    whuuuut...i love this shit... =/
     
  12. brown_bear

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    ^ ANGIEEE.....AND AND THE CHOCOLATE KOALA BICCIES AS WELL....:(...

    [​IMG]
     
  13. ah_wong201

    ah_wong201 Well-Known Member

    o man i just seen a bag of the white rabbit candy at home. lucky its not opened yet. time to throw that away
     
  14. i havent had the white rabbit candy in a long time never liked it... and no way! those koala cookies are so good !!
     
  15. fookjay07

    fookjay07 Well-Known Member

    dam man im so lucky i stopped having that rabbit sweet...
    maybe i gotta think again about buyin foods from china..
     
  16. joejoemcz

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    This is so unethical