Grades or Work Experience?

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  1. mystery

    mystery Well-Known Member

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    Which one do you think is most important when employers look for candidates, your grade at school or your previous experience in related jobs? Why?
     
  2. drakan

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    They first look at what college you attend, then grades, followed by work experience, and finally extracurriculars.
     
  3. Knoctur_nal

    Knoctur_nal |Force 10 from Navarone|

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    depends on the field you're in.
     
  4. lotsofmsg

    lotsofmsg Well-Known Member

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    It really all depends what kinda of job..
    If it is a academic form of job they usually look at the grades...
    but work experience is always more of a piority also...

    BUt when u have a degree they everybody just really starts looking at the degree rather then the grades itself...
     
  5. hkm91450

    hkm91450 Well-Known Member

    I think it really all boils down to work experience and personality. I mean, that's the reality in life. You can be the smartest person in the world, yet have no street smarts.... So, really, having that 'it' factor is more important than knowing everything from the books.
     
  6. drakan

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    when you're looking for a job, it's who you know not what you know.
     
  7. experience is very important now and days.
     
  8. drakan

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    experience is important, but networking is crucial.
     
  9. shy

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    If you are applying for competitive positions right out of college, I'm sure that your grades will be an important factor. When I applied for my part-time job at an investment bank, they told me that in order for me to even be looked at, I had to have at least a 3.5 GPA. I had a 3.8, and even I was wait-listed for a while. The insurance company at which my sister currently works at requires that you have at least a 3.3 GPA.

    Since companies don't expect for undergrads to have work experience, a lot of questions asked during interviews will be related to school experience, like how you've demonstrated leadership, teamwork, and initiative.

    It's always recommended that you apply for an internship during your junior year summer to show employers that you are serious about the field that you are going into. However, it's not required for most starting/analyst positions.

    Work experience can count against or for you. If you got bad reviews during your previous work or if you didn't excel in what you did, then it won't help you at all.
     
  10. Sexygundam

    Sexygundam Well-Known Member

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    Well it depends wot your looking for but experience is important and my work experience place was in a Travel agents
     
  11. eolau

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    Well it depends on your field.

    But I think in terms of importance:
    1. Work Experience
    2. Personality
    3. Networking

    The caveat ofcourse being that your GPA has to be competitive. And that depends on the field you're in.
     
  12. 4ever

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  13. DuchSauce

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    My school sent me this e-mail while I was looking for a job after graduation.

    MILWAUKEE, WI—May 1, 2006--CollegeGrad.com, the #1 Entry Level Job Site, today released the results of its survey on what employers want most in hiring new college grads. Which is more important to entry level employers – the college you graduated from? Your GPA? Or what you majored in? According to the survey results, the answer may surprise you.

    The criteria that the employers ranked as most important are as follows:

    #1 – The student's major (37%)
    #2 – The student's interviewing skills (25%)
    #3 – The student's internship/experience (16%)
    #4 – The student's GPA (6%)
    #5 – Other miscellaneous qualifications (6%)
    #6 – The student's computer skills (4%)
    #7 – The student's personal appearance (3%)
    #8 – The college the student graduated from (3%)

    As the results of the survey show, 37% of employers ranked a student's major as the top priority for hiring consideration. Also very important to employers were the student's interviewing skills and their internships or experience.

    "This is great news for students who worry that they didn't attend the right college or that their GPA is not high enough," said Brian Krueger, President of CollegeGrad.com. "The results of this survey show that these are not what most employers are looking at first."

    What does it mean that an employer first looks at a student's major? "We seek qualified candidates pursuing degree programs that focus on skill sets that are of greatest interest to us," said Leslie Chappell, Director of University Relations at Lockheed Martin.

    Diane Martin, Associate Director for Career Services at the University of Washington elaborates. "The academic major determines whether a student is granted an interview, but there is a combination of attributes that determine whether a student is hired."

    In order to differentiate among candidates with the same major, or who meet the initial qualifications, employers look for soft skills that will complement the degree. Steven Jungman, Division Director of ChaseSource, LP points out, "While some positions we recruit for require specialized degrees in Information Technology or Engineering, when we interview Business and Liberal Arts graduates, we identify social traits and other soft skills in candidates who meet or exceed the already set forth qualifications."

    Once job seekers are granted an interview, they will need to sell their soft skills as specific experience in order to stand out above the crowd. "A candidate's ability to transfer their experience into examples during the interview is ultimately going to increase their success in landing a position," said Marie Artim, Assistant Vice President of Recruiting for Enterprise Rent-A-Car.

    Rob Brooks, Director of Career Services at Mount Ida College agrees. "Entry level candidates must be able to illustrate to an employer how their value will outweigh the employer's investment in providing salary, benefits and training."

    While many positions require a more specific major or skill set, other positions are open to a variety of majors. "We welcome a wide variety of majors, from business and marketing to liberal arts, into our Management Training program," said Artim. "We look for a well rounded background that includes experience and activities that build leadership, communication, customer service and business skills."

    This year, more than ever, employers are seeking a well-rounded, balanced candidate with a high level of business savvy that often comes from a co-op or internship experience. Top skills include excellent communication skills, problem solving capabilities, initiative, flexibility, and enthusiasm about the company.

    Krueger advises maintaining a positive "can do" attitude for interview success. "The most valuable member of a team is the person who can be counted on in any situation, the person who truly strives for excellence in everything they do," said Krueger. "I will take the team player who is achieving at 100% over the flashy superstar who is coasting at 50% efficiency any day of the week. And so will 99% of all hiring managers."
     
  14. starbury3

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    depends what job it is. I think if its entry position, they'll focus more on grades. But for senior position they'll look at experience
     
  15. ahhamah

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    As a recent grad I must say....work experience
     
  16. gyyr2

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    Grades gives you the foundation you require like knowing how to read and count. Work experience allows you to sample what's like in the real world of work where the knocks and bruises come about.
    Employers are looking not only at academic quals but also personal qualities.So get your skates out and look for some p/t jobs.
     
  17. Knoctur_nal

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    a lil bit of it all helps..
     
  18. ahhamah

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    It all fields I think Networking is #1. Work experience is irrelavent if you have someone that you know will "Hook it up".
     
  19. JeffreyChui

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    there's no on straight answer. I think both grades and experience are important for all jobs except low level jobs such as fast foods, stock person, cashiers.... etc.....

    I'm an Finance student and it's important to have experience..... not just ur grades.....
     
  20. gogo123

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    work experience is more crucial that grades. I finally got my 1st job, and through all the interviews that I've had to find this job, NONE of the interviewers EVER asked about grades. everything is all work based experience.

    you can be the smartest person in paper through grades, but that person can also be the dumbest person in the workforce. its better to have a balance of both if possible.