Is it true forgiveness if you still remember the crime committed?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by chickenutbread, May 7, 2007.

  1. chickenutbread

    chickenutbread Well-Known Member

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    What's your thoughts?
     
    #1 chickenutbread, May 7, 2007
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  2. BabyRain

    BabyRain Doppelgänger of da E.Twin

    forgive n forget
     
    #2 BabyRain, May 7, 2007
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  3. ch0ps7ix

    ch0ps7ix Well-Known Member

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    yes because theres not exactly a way to erase it from your mind..... it might not be on the top of your head but ull still remember it
     
  4. BabyRain

    BabyRain Doppelgänger of da E.Twin

    @Chickenutbread: Why did u edit ur post?
     
  5. nyckeion

    nyckeion ....Boo....

    ehhh our thoughts on what when you didnt post anything or edited it
     
  6. hiake

    hiake Vardøgr of da E.Twin

    CNB edited the OP so I am not sure if I am answering to the circumstances, but this is in response to the question in general: I cannot do neither forgive nor forget. But I can act normal around the person in question.

    It's a matter of "point accumulation" system, the more unruly and mean things one do (to me), the less points he/she will have and one day I will just stop calling (that's for friends). Or I call the relationship off (if it's a relationship).
     
  7. Vinnie_boy

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    I think depending on the crime that most people should be forgiven but like i said it depends on the crime. If it was something like mass murder then the guy shouldnt be forgiven because he's prob a pshyco = =" and you dont want to set one of those loose in sociaty now do you
     
  8. misenlai

    misenlai Well-Known Member

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    yea it's really depends. Well if it involves murder, hard to forgive.
     
  9. wind2000

    wind2000 Self Schemata

    Can forgive but cannot forget. Forget to me literally means that i would have no recollection of it whatsoever and its hardly possible that ill forget when i have been wronged.
     
  10. Jamien

    Jamien Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm... I feel it is still feel forgiving without forgetting is forgiving. That's why it's 2 words right? Sometimes when someone did something bad, you can find it in your heart to forgive him but it may be very hard to forget. Forgiving means not holding it against the person. Forgetting is never to remember it. 2 different things. It's easier to forgive than forget.
     
  11. Forgive but I dun think u can forget lor...
    But even if u do still remember doesnt mean u havent actually forgiven them...
    If that makes any sense >.<
     
  12. semkei

    semkei Well-Known Member

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    i agreed what ur said no matter the things are small or big when ur got hurt ur feeling ur cant just forget and forgive it. Thats mine opion. And even ur forgive it ur wont forget the things. I hope this make sense.
     
  13. chickenutbread

    chickenutbread Well-Known Member

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    ^ in reply to babyrain & hiake, i had 2 scenarios of people i think i forgave but cannot forget and thought the examples sounded silly, so i took them off. would you like me to put em back on?
     
  14. fearless_fx

    fearless_fx Eugooglizer

    just devise less silly ones :p
     
  15. chickenutbread

    chickenutbread Well-Known Member

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    haha. well, one of them isn't so silly and i suppose i'll put that here:

    So I say "I have to go because I haven't taken a shower yet and it's late" as I'm on the phone with a guy and he says, "Can I help you?" and I say "Excuse me?" and he was like "with your shower" and because (only for this reason) I was good friends with him did I not immediately hang up. He later said sorry only after I told him I was offended. And that is the same reason why I'm not close to him as I was before.

    Did I overreact? Perhaps. Although I know almost all guys have sexual thoughts going around in their head every 5 seconds, it's another matter to express it, you know?

    I still am friends with that guy, I guess but my perspective of him has changed a little.
     
  16. BabyRain

    BabyRain Doppelgänger of da E.Twin

    @Chickenutbread:
    No i don't think you overreact... Especially if you always thought of the guy as somewhat decent... Haha. Don't mean that guys who expressed their sexual thoughts are indecent; but it would depend on the situation.
    I totally get how you feel. I feel the same way too even when chatting to guys online that I thought were decent but not long into the conversation; they start hinting at sexual stuff and I'd be kinda turned off.
     
  17. chickenutbread

    chickenutbread Well-Known Member

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    ^ thanks. i don't really know what a "normal" reaction would be?

    another scenario: so i'm with a good friend and she says something like "you suck" but seems to be half-joking/half-not and so i assumed she was joking. but after a while, she didn't say "i'm kidding" or anything to indicate that she was joking, as people usually do right? so i got kind of angry because i was thinking "was she trying to imply something??"

    how do you react to people who you see as good friends but who also half-joke/half-not and seem to actually be insulting you?
     
  18. BabyRain

    BabyRain Doppelgänger of da E.Twin

    ^Chickenutbread:
    there's no 'normal' or unusual reaction... It all depends on our way of thinking. If one is open-minded and flirty (not to imply us as narrow-minded); the gal would probably flirted in response to the shower guy. Just that probably people like you and I are so used to pervs that we are hoping for one less occurrence from a guy we thought were decent and in hoping for that; we got disappointed and that's how we reacted.

    that other scenario I already commented on; so I'll let somebody else do it.
     
  19. BabyRain

    BabyRain Doppelgänger of da E.Twin

    That would also depend on how close I am with the person... and if I see the person as a good friend as what you said; I would probably be 'half-jokingly/half-insulting' him/her back ... :p As you sow so shall you reap... lol
     
  20. smallrinilady

    smallrinilady Well-Known Member

    forgiving it all about how you treat the issue afterwards

    never forget, i dont like that concept, believing that everyting is always perfect, nothing is
    it is an experiance that brought people to different places

    the forgetting doesn't mean that you actually can't remember it
    or that you try to wipe it from your memories
    but is that you dont use that issue as an arguing point later on,