It's calculus, help!!!

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  1. DKNY

    DKNY Well-Known Member

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    Consider the vectors a = <1,1,0> and b = <0,1,-1>. Find a vector c which is perpendicular to a and makes an angle of 60 degree with b.

    How do i solve it? THANK YOU
     
  2. DKNY

    DKNY Well-Known Member

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    I solve it myself, haha
    a = <1, 1, 0 >
    b = <0, 1, -1>

    Let
    c = <d, e, f>

    The dot product of orthogonal vectors is zero.

    a • c = <1, 1, 0 > • <d, e, f> = d + e = 0
    e = -d

    So we have c = <d, -d, f>.
    ____________

    b • c = <0, 1, -1> • <d, -d, f> = -d - f

    Take the magnitude of vectors b and c.

    | b | = √[0² + 1² + (-1)²] = √(0 + 1 + 1) = √2
    | c | = √[d² + (-d)² + f²] = √(2d² + f²)

    The dot product can also be represented another way.

    b • c = | b | | c | cos60°

    because 60° is the angle between vectors b and c.

    b • c = | b | | c | cos60°
    -d - f = (√2) [√(2d² + f²)] (1/2)
    -d - f = [√(2d² + f²)] (1/√2)

    Square both sides.

    (-d - f)² = (2d² + f²) (1/2)
    2(d² + 2df + f²) = 2d² + f²
    2d² + 4df + 2f² = 2d² + f²
    4df + f² = 0
    f(f + 4d) = 0

    f = 0, -4d
    The solution f = 0 is extraneous and therefore rejected.

    f = -4d

    So

    c = <d, -d, -4d>

    Let d = 1.

    Then
    c = <1, -1, -4>
    ________

    Test.

    a • c = <1, 1, 0> • <1, -1, -4> = 1 - 1 + 0 = 0
    So vectors a and c are perpendicular.

    Now vectors b and c.

    b • c = <0, 1, -1> • <1, -1, -4> = 0 - 1 + 4 = 3
    | b | = √2
    | c | = √(2d² + f²) = √(2*1 + 4²) = √(2 + 16) = √18

    b • c =? | b | | c | cos60°
    3 = (√2)(√18) cos60°
    3 = (√36) (1/2) = 6 * (1/2)
    3 = 3

    So vector c = <1, -1, -4> is a solution.
     
  3. dim8sum

    dim8sum ♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪....

    well done, doesnt that feel better than someone you telling you the answer :biggthumpup:
     
  4. The_Jelly

    The_Jelly NSFW? :P

    That's vectors lol, not calc.
     
  5. DKNY

    DKNY Well-Known Member

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    its in my calculus book, so ya, haha
     
  6. Dandlax

    Dandlax Member

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    Vector Calculus, by E. Marsden?
     
  7. it is a part of calculus.... i took 3 semester of calculus and this was in Calc III
     
  8. Dandlax

    Dandlax Member

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    Cool, I'm doing chapter 7 and 8 right now
     
  9. The_Jelly

    The_Jelly NSFW? :P

    They incorporated vectors in so people could get a more broader understanding of math. But like I said it is not calculus, part of it no doubt.
     
  10. robsh

    robsh Well-Known Member

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    hahaha
    seems i cant remember anything i did during my degree
    math is such a stranger now