I dunno, lately it'e been getting to me like when i go shopping with a friend (in the United States) and when i look at something she's like "Oh that's expensive you can get it in china for $5" therefore discouraging me from buying it or just complainging things are expensive i did get so fed up with it that i turned to her and said "we're not in china, you also have to think of that fact that in china people don't make as much money as people here" she's also in the medical field, so you would think she has a bit of cash (it always bothers me that she never offers to pay for anything, especially when i drive her around and pay for the expensive parking lot costs) and she wants me to make her cosplay, becuase we do it together, but when we got to the store to buy supplies for her costume, she actually expects me to pay. Like one time i had her pay for it, cause i left my wallet in the car, and she's latter like, ok now you owe me this much ( . . . .) . . .for her costume? Or when we went to a street fair, and she kept suggesting all these foods that were good, so that the other people who were interested in trying would go buy it and try it. Then she would eat more than anyone else. Than she didn't have to buy anything (for herself or to share) because she was full second story. another friend is freaking out that her computer is all well this is what she said "Help!! I need a virus protector I can download. Like, for free" but it bothers me that she's urgent, yet also being cheap she could have said "it would be nice if it was free" but not make it like mandatory so normally it wouldn't bother me, cause before she was poor but now she makes A LOT of money yet she's still acting like she's got no money, therefore she needs everything to be free I'm not saying that getting good deals are not good but is it wrong to pay full price on something?
people always want the cheapest deal I guess.... i know I'm like that when I'm grocery shopping, I tend to try to find best deals and cheapest, I mean to me, money doesn't come that easily and so I try to spend as little as I can but also come out with more. But then...your friend who sort of tricks people into buying things just so she can have it herself is rather cheap ass...
and this is why... Chinese people are so successful in doing business lol ok seriously though... the mooching is lame... other than the mooching... everything else is kinda normal to me
the 2nd story seems normal to me, i mean why pay for something if you can have it for free? but the first story... daymn! your friend is a bit.. ahem.. CHEAPASSSS and rude?? i always offer to pay my friends back (for petrol and parking) if she drives me to places... you sure she's your friend and not using u? lol.... then again maybe she's just really ''han cheen'' enit?
I can relate to the second story: what's there to complain about, rini? Even if I was rich, I'm not going to spend $100+ on an anti-virus program when I can get decent ones for free (Avast). Why don't you just recommend some free anti-viruses to her instead of getting irritated by her "cheapness." Having a lot of money doesn't always justify paying for things that one feels isn't necessary to pay for.
i think it's also half being spoiled as led her to feel she doesn't have to pay people back for stuff or that she can take more than others (i dont think she makes herself aware of the quantitiy difference), and not asking people if they want the last piece like when we went to a sushi boat place, she kept taking what people offered without hesitation, without even waiting to see if anyone else wanted to try it first. so she ended up taking like 70% of what people offered, and the rest was shared between like 4 people. even if your "han cheen" that's not the same as spending other people's money.
I know this may seem a little harsh. Please forgive me. You need to learn to put your foot down. If she's constantly making you pay for stuff and has never done anything for you, bring it up. If you don't speak up, she will assume that you're paying for all the stuff and doing all the stuff for her because you like to. If she refuses to help you out after you brought up the issue, she's obviously taking advantage of you. She has the "what can you do for her" mindset.
i agree with kontra. also, about the second thing about the antivirus, there are some gd free ones out there like avast.
Well, I usually will snap with a "well, it better BE cheap to justify that plane ticket which is insanely expensive". I am usually upset about people "showing off" their "good deals" in China with the whole "yeah, you are so totally pathetic to be wearing the same clothes as the people who earn less than $10RMB per hour do, and BTW, how much do YOU earn again? You are fragging ripping off your townsfolk (since it's usually the Chinese who are SO proud of their poor townsfolk) by first encouraging an economy to be building on shameless exploitation, then conveniently stabbing the local US/Canada/UK/European economy while you are at it, I am sure you are proud of yourself" If the person is a Hong Kong/China fanatic, I would proceed to "well, if you love it so much over there, with the CHEAP stuff and all that, why don't you go over there and try to earn a living and see what kind of living standard you are talking about? I am sure you'll either be so HUGE over there you'll enjoy seeing other people suffer for their daily life."
each to its own i don't usually complain about price unless it was a total rip off what i do is criticize the product for being crappy =P go for it is what i'd say i got this advice off a book : do not be mr/s know it all , people hate naggers or ones who think they know everything , don't try to always be right even if you are, alot of times you have to let it slide.
very simple answer...good deals you get more stuff for the money. Full price, less.....would you want to be able to purchase more with ur money or less...nuff said, point should've been made... and your friend on the anti-virus issue. Damn don't hate on people asking for free stuff just because they rich, how do you think they be rich. They save money. But i think most people wouldn't want to spend money on antiviruses and such unless it's the last resort. They are just asking anyways don't have to be soo mad lol.... and your friend that is discouraging you to buy stuff, if you really want it you should be able to ignore others opinions lol. She just giving u a point of view, might save u some bucks also. But i mean if you really want it, get it no matter what. And if she is really that cheap, making you pay for her stuff and such, hang out with her less lol, or just express your feelings, and say "nuh uh, not this time" lol..... Lol but i think you really shouldn't be looking at people because of their occupation or how many money they make. Because i remembered you did that to your cousins family. It's just not every rich person want to spend their money all the time, they usually want to save u know.
^ well put, but ur friend seems stingy, eitehr that or you're a push over, and thats y ur getting upset, cause i use to be a pushover in h.s., and ppl kept going to me for like cheap things/borrowing money (actually i ended up borrowing a lot in h.s., so maybe this was in middle school) this really pissed me off, cepally since im a cheapo in terms of deals and stuff ( isave every penny and put it into a bucket, prob got lots rite now ^^) but nyways yeah... 2nd person is just ur avg person, looking for a good deal, and im not even going to lie, it is WRONG to pay things at full price bahahaha =D cause usually when i do, i turn around and see the exact same thing like 20% cheapter and go T_________T
if its really annoys you then you really gotta get new friends, as friends you gotta accept how they are or try to help them by saying what bothers you. if you dont tell them they wont learn of there bad qualities. but if you really think that they arent good enough friends... go find new ones anywayz you live in USA/canada right? so the economy sux atm over there right? so is it weird if alot of people are starting to be cheapasses and try to save there money for future?
push over? maybe at first, but i've already stepped up and kinda forced her to buy food for other friends, at simillar events besides i'm just going to go with the flow since she's leaving in a month. bah whatever as for the antivirus thing. It's kinda like those people who refuse to go to a movie theatre because they can download movies for free. I mean i download from PA, but if i REALLLY like the CD i will go out and buy it. as for the antivirus issue. I think it was the additude that really bothered me. It's the i NEED versus the it would be nice if it was free that really got to me. I mean she was desperate, like the life of her computer was over without it. It kinda makes me feel like when parents who wont bring their sick kids to the doctor cause they wont (not can't) pay for the doctor fees. Or hound doctors and pcyciatrist at social events and try to get free advice/sessions out of them
Movie theaters is a horrible example as a reference to the need for anti-virus software. For your anti-virus matter, you can SIMPLY resolve her "desperation" by recommending her some free anti-virus software to satisfy her need, yet you didn't, instead you got annoyed by her for being "cheap." Is that what friends are for? Friends give help to the extent necessary. You're a computer whiz too, aren't you? Now on the other hand, if she complained about the MOVIES: "I WANT TO SEE IRON MAN, BUT I DONT WANT TO PAY $10, I WANT IT FOR FREE RIGHT NOW!" In this situation, you can't really do anything about it (since you gotta wait ~3-4 months after theatre release for DVD-rip's to be available online), thus, you can come here and make a reasonable complaint that she's irritating you. Then, everyone here would tell you to man up and "de-befriend" her.
thinking about it, isn't this part of the immoral culture in US. like i hear that ppl usually check a dying person's wallet before treating them. is this true? cos that is rather immoral.
^ Not sure if it's true, but it certainly make sense. If the person is dying and unable to speak/communicate, the wallet can give clues as to who to contact and the patient's identity (it's difficult to treat a John Doe) and possibly information about chronic diseases or other information such as medications the patient is on etc etc.
