Sibling Rivalry

Discussion in 'The Rant Section' started by hkm91450, Aug 24, 2009.

  1. hkm91450

    hkm91450 Well-Known Member

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  2. Flames

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    Pfft, my brother beats me in grades and gaming, its all fun LOL
    anyways is your sister hot and single? Better be over 18! -sorc
     
  3. mr_evolution

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    Yeah my sister owns me in academics but I showed her up in Street Fighters
     
  4. Flames

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    ^ Your sister eh? :shifty:
     
  5. mr_evolution

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    Dont think about it
     
  6. [mJ9]

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    exactly like my bro-noclue
     
  7. kdotc

    kdotc 안녕하세요빅뱅K-Dragon입니다

    lol the way i see it is to just pass school so i don't care who beats me .. brother or cousins, you can't compare me to them cause im a lazy fuk and just wanna enjoy life .. i rather smoke a little than to study more than 3hrs a day lol


    i agree that you should post pics of both of you so we can decide who's better =p
     
  8. Dav

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    i have the same situation with a friend. i'm quite jealous of him, but i've learned to just accept it. i'll probably never beat him when it comes to academics, but i know i would just be wasting my time if i kept thinking about it. i know you'll eventually find something you're better at!
     
  9. KaY_xD

    KaY_xD 但願人長久,千里共嬋娟

    is that all this dude cares? lol

    i never experienced those stuff before till i moved into my relative's house, cuz im the only child. so when i was there...jeez my cousin (female, over 18, GO AWAY) is so damn smart, athletic, very sweet & nice, polite, etc. my relatives kept telling me how im too quiet, too dark, too pessimistic, etc, should learn from my cousin. Whenever they ask me about academic work like SAT, exams whatever, im just like....eh it's ok not as good as "her". duh of cuz i felt jealous sometimes how she got all the attention & she's such a gr8 student, lots of awards. sometimes i hate how she's always smiling T_____T''.

    I just let it be......can't say much, just do ur best, at least your try. can't always be the same.
     
  10. i hate parents who show off their kids. especially when they show off attributes their kids have, yet i'm totally better.

    -bigsmile
     
  11. hmm yeah my little sis is the smartest one i guess or the same, but i can catch her out if i try

    my mom treats us equally though, she says im the first Son (caesarean), my bro the first natural born, my sis the first girl.

    yeah im sure it sux to have caesarean with your first child but thats what happens when your childs Bday is Friday 13th -devil
     
  12. MissCheekS

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    Good to hear there is no pressure from ur parents la... that would make things 10x worse.... do u guys still get along? hope u can fight ur sense of pride la...cuz it kinda sounds like the envying turned into disliking her >_< but from what u said she didnt really do anything wrong...but correct me if im wrong tho

    Anyway.... U cannot always be the best/smartest....
    Try not comparing urself to her... a lotta times its just the pressure u give urself... by competing n comparing... its what makes u feel unhappy...

    It is a known fact that not everyone is equally good at studying n even if u dont make it to med school n she does... just be " lo lik".... u can still study something else n be successfull la...


    Wish u good luck!
     
  13. casshern

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    Haha, I've been in this position all my life, but unlike you, I have an older brother who makes all the accomplishments, and an overbearing dad with sky-high expectations. Also, it's not so much sibling rivalry between the two of us as it is my parents (and everyone else in the family) expecting me to follow his footsteps.

    My brother, who's 8 years older than me, is a radiologist whose crazy achievements have made things very difficult for me to follow. First of all, all my relatives are insanely competitive, and nothing is off-limits in the competition. You know the typical scene where Asian dad #1 disparages their kid (while secretly bragging about what they can do) to Asian parent #2, who reciprocates? Yeah, imagine that, only some kind of perverse, endless, ageless version of it. Each branch of the family tries to outdo the other, and considering that my dad has 9 other siblings and my mom 4 others, that makes for a lot of branches and a gazillion cousins...

    All of this makes for some interesting family dynamics and a lot of crap. No, seriously. Nothing creates the perfect gossip breeding grounds like a bunch of ambitious, successful cousins. Harvard, Stanford, Julliard invite (because no way in hell the parents will let their kid be a concert pianist when the other option is Harvard), and tons of stuff like that. Girlfriends/boyfriends are fair game, too (which is why I never bring my GF's home). Recently, one of my cousins switched from UCLA med to UCLA dentistry (which is really good and has a 6% acceptance rate or something), and there's already a lot of remarks about why she lowered herself to that, and if it was influenced by the fact that her boyfriend was in dentistry. I can think of plenty of families who would be pretty happy with a dentist, but of course, her older brother is an MD at Harvard/MassGen, so...

    In any case, my older brother really bolstered our branch of the family by going off to a six year med school. So, by 23 he had an MD and a double major in biology and chemistry. But that's not enough... he had to top that by going through surgical internship at Stanford, and then deciding on radiology for his residency at Mayo Clinic. I sh!t you not. His fellowship was at Harvard/MassGen.

    So, when my brother just finished his fellowship at Harvard, there were a ton of companies trying to lure him to them, hence many, many nice hotels and free airline tickets to a variety of places for interviews and whatnot. Not that he isn't used to it, since he's always away at some crazy radiology conference in Spain, Greece, Canada, wherever, and absolutely everything is covered for him. (Stuff like $40.00 in quarters for supposedly covering laundry for a couple of weeks. F-uk, did they expect him to wash 2 loads a day or something?) It's also no surprise that he got some kind of resident-of-the-year award from RSNA (radiology society) since he gets invited to publish in the specialty's magazine.

    Another example of how the companies try to attract him... after he chose to go to San Francisco for Kaiser, they gave him a budget of $10,000 to ship whatever furniture he needed to get to SF from Seattle, WA - where he has a house. His apartment is also insanely expensive, since he just HAS to live next to the marina and Pacific Heights (not to mention having a perfect view of the Alcatraz). Anyone who's been to SF knows the entire city is already ridiculously expensive in and of itself.

    Well, it's not like he would have achieved so much if he wasn't extraordinary, but he's not the kind of closet geek that you would expect him to be, given his accomplishments. As the achievements built, so did the flock of women. It's amazing and kind of depressing to be around people like that - they inspire you, but at the same time, it's impossible to forget that you can't match it, but others will expect you to. "Genius" family - most people say it to me like it's a compliment, but really, genius is 99% work and 1% talent, right? All right, I admit it probably takes a lot of "giftedness" to immigrate to the US and be put into ESL classes, only to win English essay contests a few years later. It also takes a lot of courage and a great strength of will, and my brother did it. In fact, he wrote an essay for a local library contest once, decided that his essay wasn't good enough, and wrote another. The first one, he gave to his best friend to submit, and he submitted his own too. He got first place and his best friend got second place - so basically, he just won first and second by himself. He didn't even have to write another essay, he would've won anyway.

    Anyway, when you have a crazy family like that, it's friends (and forums like PA) that keep you grounded, so you don't lose yourself in all the competitiveness... which probably contributed to my brother's declining success. I'm glad pretty much every day that the SAT had already changed to 2400 when I'd taken it, because that means I don't have to match my brothers'/cousins' disgustingly perfect scores. But the 8 year gap isn't always great. Everyone is older, everyone already has their success stories, everyone already sees a path for you... their preconceived road, strengthened by all the relatives that paved it with stones. You're always playing catchup and matchup, even though things have changed a lot in 8+ years. My mom couldn't understand why I needed a computer because AP CompSci wasn't around when my brother went through it. My brother made posterboards, I made Powerpoint presentations. My brother was already in prestigious universities by the time I was accepted into GATE... it seems funny now that all that Gifted and Talented Education was a real bunch of BS, considering how little academics mattered in elementary/junior high.

    It sucks knowing that by the time you try anything, it's already been tried and done before, probably better. When you get an award, you bring it home to put next to another one that's almost identical, only dated 8 years before. You realize in sixth grade that your aunts and uncles love making comments about how you'll go to Harvard, and there's a little seed of bitterness and uncertainty.

    It doesn't help that your brother's talents are so perfectly in line with what your family expects, and anything less than that from you is failing. When your interests, your wants and needs are different from your parents, they often don't understand it. They don't understand why you are not merely an extension of themselves, a thing to make them happy and proud. They don't consider that what you do makes you happy and proud, that maybe these things are achievements to you. These things are always difficult to express to a parent who you respect.

    I know how my very Taiwanese dad reacts whenever I talk to him about business/art. I know how he expected me to be unusually talented in science like him. I had to move away from the state I'd grown up in all my life and transfer from UW to UCLA because I knew UW wasn't good enough for him. I know that even now, he hopes that I'll some day wake up and decide to pursue a serious career in medicine or pharmacy - like him, like my brother, aunts and uncles, like my cousins and everyone that had gone before.

    I guess my willpower is what keeps me going. It's what's allowed me to work 40 hours a week on top of school, so that I'd have enough money to pay for my private art classes, all while knowing that I could very well use my parents' money to pay for them. It's what lets me find time to draw and paint even while trying to maintain a 3.87 average. It's why I decided to follow my passion and stand by my decision to major in Business and Art, despite my parents' disapproval, hoping that even though it's not Biology and Chemistry, like what my brother did, I can still make them proud one day.

    lol, sorry, my rant ended up being a lot longer than I'd expected.
     
  14. Dav

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    ^ man, i can't expect anyone to match what your brother's done. i don't know why so many asian parents want their kids to do science and medical stuff but it's definitely not something i would want to do. good job on pursuing your own goals!
     
  15. negiqboyz

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    Wow .. I was never in that situation so I don't know what to say. My parents only want all of us kids to finish college. They don't really care where. That kinda fall of my sibling and I. I don't have much cousins because we don't talk to most of our relatives.

    One thing I can probably relate though is that I am a lazy dude with ok grades. Oddly, whenever my sis (who has higher grades and all) and I applied for programs/schools; I got accepted whilst my sis didn't. It's just weird.
     
  16. [mJ9]

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    When i was in secondary school,i wanted so badly to work as my cousins but not anymore because we choose different paths in uni.My cousin got a scholarship by the gov to study med in UK because he was among the top in his A-levels...at the time,i was on my first year in secondary school and it was my grandmother who was pressuring me(she still is)
     
  17. Tony

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    Pics or it didn't happen.

    This isn't exactly a sibling rivalry here but...

    I used to be very strong at art when I was little. I think it inspired my sister, who's a few years younger than I am, into drawing and painting because she is doing a lot of that now. Nowadays I don't do that anymore. It's all about computer technology this and that. I imagined my life would be in painting and such but alas... life has taken me onto another path. Maybe some day I will get back into it.

    She's doing very well and I think she is going to pick up an art major soon.

    Living your dreams vicariously through your younger sisters ftw.
     
  18. lala_bel_tempo

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    she is super junior haha. you need to be mega junior haha -bigclap

    hmm, medical schoool eyy. forget about that, join the business side and come out

    looking like a pro and one day make big bucks haha.


    well in reality, some or most people are better then others in studies wise, but in

    the workforce, some or most are much better then those who are great in studying. So think abou this rant again when you are both working :)
     
  19. reflection

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    There's never really been rivalry, academically, between my brother and I, as well as not having pressure from our parents. It was competitive within my group of friends in our earlier years before university, and that's partly because the people with backgrounds like casshern's went separate ways from some of us.

    I kind of wished I had this type of background sometimes, since I lack the knowledge of the sort of paths and such that I should take to make impressions etc. Also, my parents are usually overprotective and would object me making significant changes or moving elsewhere for my education, plus I don't think it could happen financially unless I'd score the top scholarships. But more importantly, I've found myself missing the drive compared to when I had known competition around, and it's changed my approach in academics to a more laid back take, which can't be too good. That kind of resulted in my work ethics right now, even though I still believe and see that I have the edge in talent, I'm not going to be going anywhere but down if I don't find what I need. So, I think it's great to be able to have that forceful, competitive atmosphere at times. Just don't let it completely control and consume you. There's always more than one way to beat the competition, so try taking it at another angle.
     
  20. Flames

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    Your sister eh? :shifty: