South Korea races to save 22 hostages

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by kdotc, Jul 26, 2007.

  1. kdotc

    kdotc 안녕하세요빅뱅K-Dragon입니다

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/07/26/afghanistan.hostages.ap/index.html






    i don't get it.....y r they there in afghanistan anyways? y don't they go to africa instead..dammit...getting their lives in danger and making the country worried....soon gonna b a world war 3
     
  2. Taxloss

    Taxloss Stripper Vicar

    Because they're christians on a mission...they apparently strongly believe they can help the Afghani's by sharing their love and care...
     
  3. Veincentury

    Veincentury Well-Known Member

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    I believe they were Christian volunteers= christian missionaries. Damn why would you out all things go to a country where you are immediately singled out.
     
  4. Taxloss

    Taxloss Stripper Vicar

    Hmm...the S. Korean church claim these 22 peeps are not involved in any missionary work... yeah right. <_<
     
  5. ProjectD

    ProjectD VIP yay :]

    yeah i heard about this like why do they have to go there just stay out of it until it cools down over there
     
  6. dim8sum

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    never deal with terrorists or hostage takers, no matter what (might sound harsh but it doesnt work in the long term)

    they end up just kidnapping more and more, because they know they can get deals out of it

    Did you know the current Taleban leader was actually in prison, till the stupid Italians made a deal to release ONE journalist for FIVE high priced Taleban prisoners including the now leader.... Now the leader tells all insurgence and taleban fighters to try kidnapping westerners because it gets results for them...
     
  7. khaotic

    khaotic Fobulous

    Taliban leaders set Korean hostage deadline

    KABUL (Reuters) - Taliban leaders said on Sunday their fighters would kill 22 remaining South Korean hostages if the Afghan government did not release rebel prisoners by a new deadline of 0730 GMT on Monday, a spokesman said.

    Taliban spokesman Qari Mohammad Yousuf said the deadline had been set by the Taliban leadership council, headed by elusive leader Mullah Mohammad Omar, giving the threat added weight.

    The kidnappers killed the leader of the Korean group on Wednesday, but several further deadlines have passed without the rebels carrying out their threat to kill the remaining hostages.

    "Since the talks between us, the Kabul administration and Korean government have reached deadlock and they are not honest ... hence, we will start killing the hostages if they do not start releasing our prisoners by tomorrow at 12 o'clock," Yousuf told Reuters by telephone from an unknown location.

    Sporadic talks between the Afghan government and South Korean diplomats on one side and Taliban rebels on the other have continually snagged over the rebel demand for Kabul to swap jailed insurgents for the Koreans.

    Afghan President Hamid Karzai has previously ruled out any deal with the Taliban after coming under harsh criticism for freeing five rebel prisoners in exchange for the release of an Italian hostage in March.

    In his first comments on the latest hostage case, Karzai condemned the kidnapping, but did not say whether any deal might be possible.

    "Hostage-taking and the abuse of foreign guests, especially women, is against Islam and Afghan culture and the perpetration of this heinous act on our soil is in total contempt of our Islamic and Afghan values," a spokesman quoted him as saying.

    An Afghan minister said on Saturday force might be used if talks fail.

    Pope Benedict on Sunday called the kidnapping a "grave violation of human dignity that clashes with every elementary norm of civility and rights and gravely offends divine law."

    Eighteen of the remaining hostages are women. Yousuf said some of the captives -- being held in small groups at different locations -- were sick.

    Ghazni's governor, Mirajuddin Pathan, said medicines the Korean government had wanted to send could not be delivered on Saturday because the Afghan team could not establish contact with the Taliban.

    Pathan said the government did not want to use force to rescue the hostages. "We have no plan of attack. We are trying to send the delegation for more talks," he told Reuters.

    In addition to Afghan forces, foreign troops are also stationed in Ghazni.

    South Korean special envoy Baek Jong-chun met Karzai on Sunday to discuss ways to end the hostages' ordeal.

    "We are well aware of Afghan culture and the difficulties the Afghan government and people are faced with in their fight against terrorism, and will respect their decision to end the hostage crisis," a statement by Karzai's office quoted the Korean chief national security advisor as saying.

    The Taliban are also holding one German and four of his Afghan colleagues, abducted from a neighboring province a day before the Koreans. Another German seized alongside them was later found dead with gunshot wounds.

    The abduction of the Koreans is the largest kidnapping of foreigners by the Taliban since U.S.-led and Afghan forces overthrew the movement's radical Islamic government in 2001.

    It comes amid an increase of violence in the past 18 months, the bloodiest period since Taliban's removal.

    http://today.reuters.ca/news/newsAr...L42047_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-AFGHAN-HOSTAGES-COL.XML
     
  8. Veincentury

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    so stupid the evangelist koreans are prob thinking if we convert more people=more money for church...if we send more missionairies=we get more sensationalism from the news. Mad retarded........
     
  9. haun

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    The hostages are more likely to die than being saved. Many attempted of negotiation have failed and they threatened to kill them many times already.
     
  10. khaotic

    khaotic Fobulous

    Taliban say they have killed a second SKorean hostage

    GHAZNI, Afghanistan (AFP) - Afghanistan's Taliban militia said it shot dead late Monday a South Korean hostage, among 23 captured two weeks ago, after its deadlines expired for the government to free prisoners.

    "We set several deadlines and the Afghan government did not pay attention to our deadlines," spokesman Yousuf Ahmadi told AFP. "Finally tonight at 8:30 (1600 GMT) we killed one of the Koreans named Sung Sin with AK-47 gunshots."

    The body of the hostage had been dumped in the Qarabagh district of the southern province of Ghazni, Ahmadi said. He did not specify the gender of the captive but his use of the Pashtu language suggested a man was killed.

    The area is where 23 South Korean Christians, 16 of them women, were captured on July 19 while officially on an aid mission.

    The Taliban threatened on Sunday to start killing them Monday if its demand was ignored.

    The leader of the Koreans, a 42-year-old pastor, was shot dead on Wednesday last week and his bullet-riddled body found in a desert area of the province.

    There was no independent confirmation of the latest killing, but Afghan officials said they were pursuing unconfirmed intelligence reports that two of the hostages were dead.

    "We have heard reports of two hostages killed but I cannot confirm it at this stage," Ghazni governor Mirajuddin Pattan told AFP.

    Provincial police chief Alishah Ahmadzai said his information was that two bodies had been dumped in the Char Daiwal area of the Qarabagh, which is 140 kilometres (90 miles) south of Kabul.

    "Although it's night and dark, police forces have gone to the area and have started a search and investigation there. We don't know at this stage if it is true or not," he said.

    The South Korean embassy here has refused to comment to press on the case.

    The hardline Islamic militia extended a deadline of noon Monday by four hours, saying afterwards it leaders were deciding on the fate of its captives.

    It had demanded the government free Taliban men in its jails but negotiators said this was not up for discussion and called for two extra days to try to resolve the crisis.

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  11. Knoctur_nal

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    why would christians go into an extremist muslim country believing that they can spread the word of their religion and peace.....exactly....i mean..its either spread the word and do good vs your own life....from the beginning this had a high possibility of going bad....it was the same thing a group of american christians did...and that also had a kidnapping incident...somehow they don't seem to see the harsh reality of the situation..
     
  12. zero_c

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    Some part of my mind is thinking that they deserved it for being so stupid about the circumstances in the Middle East and going there to promote Christianity. But I do feel bad that they could be dead by the end of the week.
     
  13. kdotc

    kdotc 안녕하세요빅뱅K-Dragon입니다

    i heard that they were warned and had a chance to leave afghanistan but didn't?? is that tru?
     
  14. ckhar

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    why they all want to make so much trouble???
     
  15. Kachi_no_Kemuri

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    Damn i really feel sorry for them aye.

    Btw where is this so called "America"? The nation that strives itself on "helping" other nations and sees itself as a "hero" to the asian countries.

    Oh i get it, when it comes to hostages in a democratic asian country like south Korea being kidnapped by extremists, America refuses to butt in and turn a blind eye. Yet America wants to make all the asian countries to follow their league and of course they ste up bases in Sth. Korea and Japan and say "we're here to help you" but on this issue they dont give a damn.

    I thought America was all about "screwing with a democratic country means you're screwing with us". Obviously not...

    Sorry had that in for me for a week now. Besides the Sth. Korean should take action ASAP!!!!!
     
  16. dim8sum

    dim8sum ♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪....

    ^ I think the Americans have a very strict policy about negotiating with terrorists and hostage situations

    plus usually other countries will not meddle with a countries affairs unless asked to do so

    so Sth. Korea probably hasnt asked yet, otherwise im sure America would butt in especially since Sth Korea is a very big ally in Asia for America
     
  17. Kachi_no_Kemuri

    Kachi_no_Kemuri Well-Known Member

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    America has ALWAYS meddled with other country's affairs without being told to do so.:p
     
  18. dim8sum

    dim8sum ♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪....

    Not if its not in its interest they wont ;)

     
  19. Taxloss

    Taxloss Stripper Vicar

    Source: BBC News

    What I do wonder is...can't the UN forbid this kind of aid workers in those dangerous regions? I mean, they clearly didn't realize what they were up to till they got kidnapped by the Taleban and they're now part of a political game, bringing the Afghan and their own S. Korean governments into trouble.


    (EDIT: don't spam in this thread if you have nothing to add i.e "guess there's a lot of crazy people out there" or along those lines)
     
  20. DingLik

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    they volunteered to go, and now they pay the price.