Toronto Goes Wireless Citywide!

Discussion in 'Science, Technology & Car Chat' started by Knoctur_nal, Mar 7, 2006.

  1. Knoctur_nal

    Knoctur_nal |Force 10 from Navarone|

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    Toronto Hydro Corp. will announce Tuesday that it plans to turn Canada's largest city into one giant wireless hotspot, directly challenging the country's major mobile phone carriers for a chunk of the $8 billion a year wireless market.
    With the deployment, which sources say could be available in the downtown core as early as this fall, Toronto joins a growing list of North American cities, including Philadelphia, New Orleans and San Francisco, that have announced plans to bring low-cost, broadband wireless access to their citizens and businesses.

    "I wouldn't be surprised if you see it in September or October of this year," said a source close to the project.

    Mayor David Miller will join Toronto Hydro executives on Tuesday to officially announce the initiative, which will be the largest of its kind ever undertaken in Canada and could undermine commercial product offerings from Rogers Wireless, Telus Mobility and Bell Mobility.

    "I've heard that Ted Rogers is not very happy," said the source, referring to the founder of Toronto-based Rogers Communications Inc., parent company of Rogers Wireless, the country's largest mobile phone provider.

    So-called municipal Wi-Fi, which blankets entire cities with the same wireless network technology found in many homes and small businesses, makes broadband access virtually ubiquitous and gives municipalities a way of generating revenue while offering affordable high-speed Internet access to low-income persons and neighbourhoods.

    It also gives cities a way to attract tourists and business professionals, provides local police with better access to law enforcement databases while on the road, and helps city officials remotely monitor parking meters and other automated services. Toronto Hydro might also choose to sell a wholesale version of the service to other service providers.

    In Ontario, where smart meters have been mandated, electrical utilities are looking at various telecommunications technologies for retrieving data from people's homes and businesses for time-of-day billing purposes.

    Sources say Toronto Hydro has decided to support its smart meter plan using Wi-Fi technology, which can be accessed by any properly equipped laptop or handheld computing device.

    Brian Sharwood, a telecom analyst with the Seaboard Group in Toronto, said it makes sense for a utility to recoup the cost of supporting smart meters by also selling wireless broadband services. "In a way that's the excuse to do all of this," he said. "You're going to run it past a lot of people anyway."

    He said Canada's largest municipal electrical utility, which last year purchased Toronto's street light system for $60 million, will likely install the necessary wireless transmitters and receivers atop every fourth or fifth lamp post as a way to blanket the city with coverage -- what the industry describes as "wireless mesh networking."

    Several companies offer the technology, including Kanata, Ont.-based BelAir Networks and Brampton-based Nortel Networks. Utilities in Hamilton and Sault Ste. Marie are pursuing similar Wi-Fi strategies for their respective smart meter programs.

    Municipal Wi-Fi projects aren't without controversy. In the United States, major wireless carriers say municipalities have no experience selling consumer services and are abusing their monopoly over taxpayers' funds. They also fear that their own Wi-Fi services, increasingly offered in airports, restaurants, coffee shops and hotels, will be undercut when it comes to price.

    But municipalities argue that competition is healthy and that blanketing communities with low-cost broadband access helps bridge the digital divide.

    The announcement Tuesday by Toronto Hydro will follow VIA Rail Canada's decision to begin offering Wi-Fi service on all its trains between Windsor and Quebec City over the course of the year.

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  2. 小小

    小小 (゚ー゚)(。_。)(゚ー゚)(。_。) afk

    meh lucky, my place should hve more hotspots like net cafes and shit

    but no it so out dated and shite -lol
     
  3. naruto1314

    naruto1314 Well-Known Member

    awww
    i think cambridge will get that by 2007
    we want wireless
    and in boston
    idk when
    <_<
     
  4. 小小

    小小 (゚ー゚)(。_。)(゚ー゚)(。_。) afk

    im prepared, my laptop is wireless :)

    all i hve to do nw is wait <_<

    i shuld get a router as well for my house but heard off my mates its a friggering hassle to install
     
  5. naruto1314

    naruto1314 Well-Known Member

    i got g wirless card
    i want them to install near my town
    dont need hard wire
    i hear in usa they will provide it free
    so far it going to be in cambridge only
     
  6. 小小

    小小 (゚ー゚)(。_。)(゚ー゚)(。_。) afk

    nice ... i can connect to other ppl stuff usin my wireless in my area but i need a pw :p

    hahaha
     
  7. naruto1314

    naruto1314 Well-Known Member

    me too
    but i dont like where i live
    with many wireless signal from camera
    sometime it keep asking em to do you wnat to connect to this network
    i dont want to break the law
     
  8. Knoctur_nal

    Knoctur_nal |Force 10 from Navarone|

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    wireless router these days take like 5 mins to install...n certain cities in the states already have city wide wireless known as wimax..toronto is just having a version of that...but not wimax itself..it will be 802.11b/g....and about those password...most ppl today don't protect their wireless network..and if they do..the most likely use wep...and wep can cracked in like minutes if your good....just get a sniffer for your laptop...http://www.netstumbler.com/downloads/ this will tell u all open and secure networks along with other info...and take alook at this beginners guide to cracking wep...http://www.tomsnetworking.com/2005/05/10/how_to_crack_wep_/

    Knoc
     
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  9. 小小

    小小 (゚ー゚)(。_。)(゚ー゚)(。_。) afk

    hahaha nice

    nw i no what ur up 2 in ur spare time ;) hahaha
     
  10. Knoctur_nal

    Knoctur_nal |Force 10 from Navarone|

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    i'm up to many things...n its the program i'm....once u learn how it works...its easy to crack....a true pirate i am....n yes..using someone else's wireless net is illegal..however..it can be argued that its up to that person to protect their network...or are u just surfing..or viewing shared network file...n in the u.s. ppl have been charged n put in prison for using someone else's network....
     
  11. 小小

    小小 (゚ー゚)(。_。)(゚ー゚)(。_。) afk

    wow intense in the u.s, they take privacy seriously eh ...
     
  12. naruto1314

    naruto1314 Well-Known Member

    yea
    that bad in the US
    tehy dont like free rider
    using thing without paying for it
     
  13. Knoctur_nal

    Knoctur_nal |Force 10 from Navarone|

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    well...they mite twist it n put some blame on the user for not protecting his network
     
  14. 小小

    小小 (゚ー゚)(。_。)(゚ー゚)(。_。) afk

    well that intense .... thats actually quite bad

    knoc u shuld stop b4 u get caught haha
     
  15. 小小

    小小 (゚ー゚)(。_。)(゚ー゚)(。_。) afk

  16. Knoctur_nal

    Knoctur_nal |Force 10 from Navarone|

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    get caught...ha..i think not....
     
  17. naruto1314

    naruto1314 Well-Known Member

  18. Knoctur_nal

    Knoctur_nal |Force 10 from Navarone|

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    meh...long live the pirates!
     
  19. Wilku

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    wow nice.....does that mean....free internet? lol
     
  20. Knoctur_nal

    Knoctur_nal |Force 10 from Navarone|

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    free..ha.....i think not...only for some of us though...if u know wat i mean...