kinda crazy although comedians have been playing jokes on all kind of racial issues its not that big of a deal i mean i used to listen to them alot to
Its attitude like this that the spiral of anger and racism continues to flow in society. People shouldn't take this crap. I'm surprised that you aint taking offense to this!!! The broadcast is full of racist crap its as if Hitler wrote it himself.
It has never been funny, but then apparently plenty of Americans (that's the white population I am talking about) and a relatively smaller proportion of other races (that includes Asians and Chinese, yes) But then, I don't find it SO surprising that someone play pranks on Asians (the lack of national outrage was somewhat surprising). That is one of the reason why I didn't like early work of Stephen Chow...
well in the same sense we chinerse ppl make fun of other races we are just as racist go listen to those chinese jokes same thing i mean do i think they wrong yes they went overboard but not for it to become civil matter
why shouldn't it be a civil matter? if Don Imus' case become a national tv coverage matter, why shouldn't this? If Don Imus got fired for what he said, why should these idiots go away with a slap on the wrist? Do you not think this show that Asians are weak? I do think Asians need some stronger representation like what the African American have ... people like Jesse Jackson and Rev Al Sharpton.
then if thats the case why dont you fire carlos menecia (sp) chris rock, eddie murphy, and how about rosie shouldnt she be fired too then??
You're pretty ignorant. What others are trying to say is that Asian should stand up for themselves, whilst you are here taking it easy. No wonder we are prime targets for racist jokes.
how is that ignorant its more like different perspective have you ever even heard of one single stand up from chinese people? If you havent then go ahead we say the same things about other people so before you start saying you have to stand up for yourself or all that stuff look at what we did in the first place.. and now taking it easy?? how about chris tucker in rush hour when he said i smack you back to china please tell me that is alright then.. and if not why arent you complainging to the makers of rush hour. How about those stupid dub overs in jacky chan movies or how about kung pow if you ever watched that did that ever bother you?? so before you start bit*hin kachi do some research for all the things that has been done to us already now you guys start to make a big deal out of it cause of someone mentioned don imus.
Yes Asian should stand up for themselves when subjected with racism, however, it begs the quesiton if it's instant karma that whites are discriminated in non-white countries. You may say they are very admired, but down below we all laugh at outsiders. nyckeion has a point in comparing the "racism" in films and this radio gag. I take offend from all of them (which I have encountered), though to my understanding many seems to enjoy those supposingly funny gags. I don't find laughing at another race, another body type, another gender funny. It's not funny, it never had been. But that's just me. I sense the outrage for this radio segment due to its rude or offensive language, not necessary from the racist comments. But believe me, it is hypocrisy to say it is racist and offending at one comment then turn around and find another equally racist comment funny.
Are u for real!? God inject this guy with some sense of reality! Chris Tucker and those "other movies" are different to the radio segment broadcast last week. The movies made fun of the individuals and / or it doesn't cross the border of when it becomes a "race" issue and slandering the asian culture. That said, im takin into context that it does not bring the negative stereotype of asians into clear perspective. On the other hand the racist rant over the radio does because its super enforcing the stereotype thats already there in society against asians. Meaning they are intensifying the negative stereotype so much, it actually becomes offensive. Come on rants like: "Your "tiny" eggroll in your pants?" "Hot Sexy Asian lady?" Are u even asian at all!!? Im beginning to doubt that
So playing on stereotyping is okay? But race is off-limit??? That's what I got from your message. Yes, the comment from the Radio segment is offensive, but in fact films are no less so. Just because the film is not continuously offensive for 90 minutes does not mean the so-called jokes told inside are not offensive. In fact, using stereotypes and laughing at them IS racist, the radio segment is only made more offensive because it bordered on sexual harassment. As far as I know, any decent conversation should not steer down the uncharted water of SEX. And questioning whether another person here is Asian seem a bit of a low-blow. It does not matter whether one is Asian to find something offensively racist. However, I consider it hypocritical to be JUST offended by racist comment TOWARDS Asians all the while enjoying jokes at the expense of other races.
^ In regards to my message was that i was analysing of what nyckeion said wasabout Rush Hour and Kung Pow. From my point of view (evn though i never seen those two movies) was the fact that it was based around the person's character. Sure, Tucker said "slap you back to china" but what interpretation does that gives us? It has two roads. 1) It is deemed offensive by the fact that it is somewhat saying "go back to your own country. 2) Its just pissing off Jackie's character about dissing his homeland not his "race". Although interpretation will vary. What i stated was, if it was a race issue then Tucker would've made racist stereotypes to Jackie about having the whole "Fu Manchu" look. Hence it will wont be any different than the stupid radio rant. The show seems to be anti-AM no doubt but does the whole issue of race stand out from it? Is it just as visible as the radio segment, even more so? The question towards nyc is based on whether he is asian or not stems in regards to the fact that some asians out there are trying to brush up our image in the western world. Whilst some others just sit on their hands and don't do anything and face the facts that the whole Asian image will never be portrayed in the positive light and accept that they can be treated like doormats. Well, sorry im not those type of asians. I stand up on what i believe and that is - Asians should be treated with respect like any other people. Like to hear ure input Hiake
My take on the matter is somewhat different from yours (hmmm, and I now retort to stating the obvious) Of course I find the radio segment offensive, I do not object to that. But personally I never was able to comprehend what is so funny about spoofing others so I guess finding it offensive is like a given for me. However, what annoys me was how many people get very ready to hop on their moral high horse in saying "OMG that's so racist" all the while finding other equally racist entertainment entertaining. Things do not turn racist in a single split second just because it is directed towards one's race, and if anyone is into following and laughing with these shows to begin with, they don't really have the ground to be outraged by the "racist comment". They can be angry because "OMG it's my race's turn to be spoofed" but not because "OMG it's racist". What goes around comes around, I would say. Now now, those who love the so-called comedies don't act all holy and start preaching. Because in order to be equal, it means that you should not have enjoyed the spoofing of other races. America is an easy target because the majority "Whites" enjoy such lowly entertainment and it's natural to say "well I just watch it because it's on TV/radio" but there's always the option of not seeing/supporting the show. Just because your not supporting it does not make a huge difference do not mean that you shouldn't do it, because if enough people decided not to support a show, it may just be possible that it got pulled. But doing nothing about it while complaining yet secretly enjoying it does none of us any good.
well, for the record, I don't and never watch Don Imus, Rosie, Chris Tucker or anyone else. Come to think of it, I don't watch much TV shows. But for those of you that do not agree that Asians should cry out about this incident, let me ask you this ... do you also disagree that Don Imus should not have been fired? And I'm not being a hypocrite about this whole issue, I do not agree in racisms. I totally believe that alot of times, problems arises from difference in race or religions. The sad fact that it does exists and war goes on for centuries just because of that. And I do not just sit idly; I do in fact wrote a letter of dissatisfaction to CBS at http://www.cbsradio.com/contact/sitehelpform.html I think the citizens of the world needs to just live together without trying to ridicule each other's race, skin color or even religion. Just becoz the other person doesn't have the same religion or race or skin color doesn't mean that person is bad. Bottomline, I do think Asians need stronger representation and we do need to stand up for any injustice or insult.
okay may apologies for replying so really late and I thank hiake for stating my words differently. Am I asian well nope im oriental if you want to be exact. I may not be able to read or write but i can speak it fine. I never once stated that i am not offended by what they said. And if you carefully read what i wrote for the first 2 sentences i have clearly said have you SEEN any things that we chinese ppl have said also? Just because other races dont understand dont make it right for us to say things about them also dont you agree.. if you are really so upset about racism or stereotypes or even what they say then would you correct a chinese person if he commented that "say gwai lo always smell like piss" will you say oh you shouldnt say that its wrong? It has nothing to do with ignorance its just that fact if you want people to treat you fairly we have to learn to do the same first. As for the 2 movie references its not about just a individual did you see the rush hour 2 that was filmed in hong kong? About the taxi driver wont do anything unless he sees money so are we money hungry? And the massage parlor with supposedly hookers? does that mean that there are no real clean spas? And inject me with reality .... and if i am asian... lets just say im not so you can bash me then what difference does that make you? And I am not living in a fantasy world I am just telling you how this reality of yours really is. You say we are getting bashed .... well if that is so then china wouldnt be one of the most visited place by caucassians. To most elder chinese people most black people are either theives or dirty or low down or anything like that... are you going to tell me you are going to change their minds? If not that you are just the same as the racist people you so call hating on. as for vein: If i am very ignorant as you say then can you look at everything i said and not agree with anything i say and if you really dont agree then you really gotta start thinking who is the stubborn one and not accepting the facts.
@ab289: Yes, I try to avoid popular shows, comedies in particular since they tend to be infested with racist (and/or stereotypic) comments which are uncalled for. I can understand the want to be racist about an outside group, but it doesn't mean that it is right. Being racist to outside groups make the knit of the in-group tighter, that is a fact (if anyone's interested, read some sociology literature on "gossip"). However, it cannot be said that because the comment is directed to Asians, then Asians call it's racist all the while many Asians (as demonstrated by the entertainment business) pull the racist gag on other ethnic groups too. Face it, you cannot call "just punishment" only on others when you yourself commit the same crime. And I agree on the need for stronger representation in mainstream culture. Not all Asians stick in Chinatown and open laundry and/or chop sui restaurants. How 1950's is THAT? Get a clue, main stream.
