It's OK, this is something I want apollon to do since he called my beliefs and other religions fake. Unless you are in the same boat as well? <_<
what same boat? sorry, i'm not trying to act dumb but sometimes my brain is fried and i need things spelled out for me.
what you really want from me is physical prove that Christ is God. and i cannot do that. although, that doesn't mean that Christianity isn't true. There is three possible ways to prove it -- 1) God speak to you and then you believe. 2) A time travelling device that proves the existence and doctrine of Christ. 3) Use the Bible. if you eliminate the third possibility, then the first two are difficult to achieve. i can analysis and give examples here and there; however in the end, i will need to refer to the Bible. for it is the cornerstone of my belief. and plus, with the magician analogy. how many magician goes around healing ppl? none. it is like Jesus Christ going into a hospital and heal the residents there. will the nurses and doctors call him a magician?
Exactly. Thanks. I made my point. You can't prove it isn't true, neither can you prove it's true. So at the end of the day, don't start calling other beliefs/religions as fake. That's blatant disrespect. You can believe that in your head, but if you are going to say it publicly in a forum, then expect people to challenge you for solid proof. EDIT and plus, with the magician analogy. how many magician goes around healing ppl? none. it is like Jesus Christ going into a hospital and heal the residents there. will the nurses and doctors call him a magician? Uh, please. Who or WHAT has proof that Jesus heal people? Again, the Bible.
but that's stupid. you ask what a Christian believe in and this is what I believe. if you are insulted or disrepected, so be it. it is my belief. if you don't want to hear it, don't ask. you have no right to tell me not to speak about my beliefs.
what exactly do you mean by fake? but generally i think everyone has the right to their own beliefs and so all i can do is express mine and hope that you'll see what i see from my perspective but beyond that; nothing i can really do. cept shower my love on you. haha. i have no idea why i said that last part; it just kinda came into my head as a rhyme/song-ish thing.
Wtf? Stupid? I asked you on ur beliefs but is it really important to say that Jesus is the only way? So far i have tonnes of discussions with other Christians and they don't say that in my face. I don't see mgfcortez saying that, I don't see CNB saying that, I don't see Sugacutie saying that, neither did i hear it from my real life Christian friends. So? What the fuck? You mean your whole religion is only this point: Christianity is the ONLY way? Is that the only thing you gotta say about ur religion? LOL. then I gotta say you are indeed pathetic as you don't even comprehend the full teachings of Christianity. Do you even understand what is respecting each other's beliefs/religions?! How can you demand people to respect yours if you don't respect others? OMFG. So you have no right to call my beliefs as fake . That' s a fucking stupid act asking to be flamed.
if i'm indeed so pathetic, teach me then, BabyRain. what is Christianity about? what have I learned that is wrong? use the Bible or don't use the Bible. since i'm don't even understand my own belief ... tell me the true teaching of Christianity?
If you haven't noticed, there have indeed been posts made by other Christians trying to convey their messages to you, but it's a shame that you are too blinded to see them.
i think in all honesty the debate on truth or false regarding the bible isnt all that important but more what humanity does in its time on earth to grow culturally and further civilization. Who cares what the bible says, we need to respect the environment and replant trees and research energy forms, etc
@nunubutt: so uhh.. what would you get out of "grow(ing) culturally and further(ing) civilization"? i agree with you about respecting the environment and replanting trees and all that.
Sorry nunubutt, it wasn't even my intention in the first place to get started on the debate whether the bible is true or false... lmao. Just that I got indignant when some people claim my beliefs are false; oh wait, he claimed EVERYONE ELSE'S RELIGIONS ARE FAKE... and made it known publicly, so i just gotta vent it out. Anyway, thanks for showing up and making me realize there's no point going on this so-called 'debate' with this particular person. Funny that this particular person also demanded people to respect his religion, but he blatantly DISRESPECTS everyone else non-believers of Christianity out there... lmao.
you know what. i do believe Christ is the only way,and only through him will ppl be saved. but i'm not a dumb ass,to jump up and down and keep saying shit to someone who don't want to hear it!!! your saying i don't believe that Christ is the only way. and me being a Christian pisses me off bad,i'd sin if you said that in my face in real life. because i'm weak in alot of fleshly ways,and sin alot like every other God's children. so i'd beat your ass for saying that! because your saying i'm not even a Christian,your be held acountable for this! if you don't ask God to forgive you,your a damn hypocrite your not a real Christian!! you trying to push our God on someone who was born a buddhist (into a famly of buddhists) so how would you feel if a buddhist said buddha is the only way. you get mad,and if they kept trashing your beliefs, you act the same maybe even worse. so you piss everybody off now,and let's say their souls were going to hell. without geting to know Christ in this life,if anything you two have doomed everybody to hell! with your bullshit,and name one forum member you even help save? if these two have helped you to get closer to God please come and tell us!! there ain't nobody here that going to say anything. you got ppl believe that Christians are all closed minded and dumb as hell! you two need to read your bible more and try to understand what's in there without thinking about what someone else said a vers means! or what someone else believes,and please use what you learned in school. follow the sub,obj, like any other story book you read. and maybe you will learn something. anything i said was out of the bible,but why should i look it up and posted it for you dumb ass? your just going to claim it said something else,because maybe you heard someone else believe it that way,God want ppl to think for themselves. that's why he gave us a brain! but i'm just pissed i tried to be nice and you say i don't believe God is the only way. ask babyrain if i haven't told her i believe that!!! and she didn't get mad,you know why? because i'm not asking her to believe that way. She might care to know more about God, if dumb ass like you don't make her think we are all crazy. so give it up,your doing nothing but hurting ppl by your fire and brimestone act!
Well well well, it's a SHAME that Apollon misquoted his own Christian bro. Sighz. I've noticed that glaringly offensive statement, but I did not say anything on behalf of mgfcortez, since I don't want to make any wrong comments... lol It's HIS belief after all. Geez, Apollon, try to read others' posts next time if you wanna relate to a person's beliefs, or you are just going to end up famous like ur partner there, Master_g for his BS.
Calm down mgfcortez, he means in this lifetime, whereas you believe man will have a chance to believe in Jesus in his second life before judgement. i would like you to post some scripture to backup the stuff you say. i would like to see scriptural beliefs of other Christians. P.S i think you should ask forgiveness too for your language in this post. lets not get mad, be cool eh?
babyrain, if i had you praising my beliefs then i would be doing something very wrong.... "Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets." -Luke 6:26
Excuse me, why would you be expecting that from me in the first place? I don't understand. Praising your beliefs? FYI, I never came onto this forum expecting for people to PRAISE my beliefs, that would be a really disillusioned and stupid thought. I expect people to RESPECT my beliefs, as i respect theirs. So M_G, you by misquoting me twice on my beliefs, and failed to apologize sincerely afterwards; just made me lose my respect for you. As simple as that.