intelligent design versus evolution

Discussion in 'Philosophy & Religion' started by master_g, Nov 2, 2007.

  1. ^^ maybe you should go win the $10,000....
     
  2. artofwar

    artofwar Well-Known Member

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    i am not a expert in the field, nor have a Nobel prize. but if you post the original scientific journal by Dr de Duve, i will ask my cytogenetic professor.
     
  3. xiaojia

    xiaojia Well-Known Member

    ^lol.. those 2 are turning ur non-science thread into very pretty scientific.. -lol
     
  4. moor_moth

    moor_moth Well-Known Member

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    http://www.sciamdigital.com/index.c...LEID_CHAR=35420552-C2EC-4ECC-A51A-9F2A75FA8A2

    Heres the link to the article but you gotta pay $7.95 to get it... what a bitch ><
    Anyways i'll prolly go into uni tomorrow and i'll check to see if its in the uni database...
    Hopefully the likelihood of a article from scientific american will be recorded in NZ (fingers crossed ehe)
    Just out of interest artofwar what do you study?
     
  5. xiaojia

    xiaojia Well-Known Member

    hi.. thought i might help here..
    ~link removed~

    i will remove the file later.. so let me know when you've dled it..
     
    #26 xiaojia, Nov 5, 2007
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  6. moor_moth

    moor_moth Well-Known Member

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    Thanks xiaojia! lol your a bloody legend...
    I dled it already, but maybe you should leave it up for artofwar? neways thanks alot lol your honestly the man haha
     
  7. artofwar

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    From my undergraduate cell biology and microbiology notes, mitochondria comes from rickettsias and choroplasts come from Marchantia polymorpha. Both mitochondria and chloroplasts genomes consist of a single circular molecule DNA, no histones, first amino acid transcripts is always fMet like bacteria and not methionine as in eukaryotic cells. I am a 1st year graduate student in cytopathology. I am not good in evolution genetics.
     
  8. its all good :) let them have their fun
     
  9. hiake

    hiake Vardøgr of da E.Twin

    A PDF of this 8-page article can be found here:

    http://biologychs.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/complex.pdf
     
  10. moor_moth

    moor_moth Well-Known Member

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    Hah... im not really sure what the information you provided entails >.<
    If you can be bothered could you please elaborate?
    btw xiaojia has the link to the article lol and so does hiake
     
  11. xiaojia

    xiaojia Well-Known Member

  12. moor_moth

    moor_moth Well-Known Member

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    lol finding a link that i coudln't find... haha thts like 2 respect points right there lol
     
  13. artofwar

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    Since the publication of the 1997 de Duve paper, many papers have accounted for the microtubule, here is an example
    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=1734906

    you can read the abstract and the data and come up with your own conclusion. You can search pubmed for more articles. Just read the abstracts and the data, it should be enough

    Dr de Duve addresses the second problem in part about oxygen holocaust, you can read it yourself.
    The information I included earlier was the evidence that supports the theory.
    Rickettsia is intercellular bacteria that scientist believes became the mitochondria. Marchantia polymorpha is the name of the cyanobacteria that is the most likely bacteria to be chloroplast. Single circular molecule is how bacteria structures its DNA same as mitochondria and chloroplast. Eukaryotes use histones to organized DNA into chromosome. DNA in the nucleus requires slicing before transcription and the first DNA is always methionine. Bacteria, mitochondria, and chloroplast DNA doesn’t splice their DNA. The first Amino acid produces is always fMet.

    Since you gave me homework, here is some homework for you
    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=340828
     
  14. moor_moth

    moor_moth Well-Known Member

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    Cheers lol something to do in the holidays

    hey hey it wont let me see the first link for some reason ... =(
     
  15. RockkxD

    RockkxD Moderator

    I like the Cartoons on the first page, pretty funny.