So you are those people who likes to avoid subject, make excuse, repeat the same shit over, ignore posts, now you can tack on the "your word means nothing" label. In case you don't know what I'm talking about, someone said "im thru w/ this thread now." First of all, you're stupid. Yes. That's a fact now. You told me I was brain dead, why? "do you know me? probably not." I took that from your post. And on the video, funny stuffs. How about you go look for video where Odom makes a bad pass, preferably at least three since I provided six. Oh, the burden of proofs falls on you after I provided so many evidences. Don't try to shift the responsibility on me, okay? And here we go with a changing subject. The argument is option, as in help in offense. Rodman better than Odom? When? The only thing Rodman can do is rebound. That's it. He doesn't play well at all on the offensive end, except maybe grab a few offensive rebound. Odom has a jump shot, can shoot three, can handle being the ball-handler, as well as passing. Third option means he's the third option on offense. I have never heard of third option on defense? Really? There's such thing? LMAO. :kekekegay: Yes. You are changing the subject. Tell me, why is there a discussion of Olajuwon and Shaq? Because the argument was about which team is the favorite to win the '95 Final, not whether that Shaq and the Dream had the better career. Hakeem, in 95, is much better than Shaq. That's proof, and I got you a video on one of my posts to show that. If you are arguing on Aoes' behalf, at least know what the arguments are about. Don't barged in the conversation like a wild dog barking everywhere. :rolleyes2: Obviously, you don't know how to read. I said word for word: "Being the best player in a sport doesn't mean you can't be a choke. ARod is the best player in baseball and he choked everytime in the postseason in a Yankees uniform." Please don't skip on part of my post then put words on my post. Kobe can be both the best basketball players in the world as well as a choke, just like ARod for baseball. Wake up, learn to read, please. -noclue Yes, many people think Kobe is the best player. I do too, but just not in the Final because he choked too much in those games. Oh, thanks for arguing on my behalf. He averaged about 3.3 turnovers a game in the season, yet he committed more TO per game in the playoff. (game 1 - kobe bryant 4 turnover, game 2, kobe bryant - 4 turn over, game 3 kobe bryant - 4 turn overs. one expection is that he got 6 in game 5.) The pressure just got the better of Kobe, and therefore, he choked badly on the big stage [yet again]. And again, I never said "mental mistakes" don't exist. I'm just using your BS against you, lmao. LOL @ "its all mental mistakes, if a player is ontop of his game he'll commit max out 3/4 turnovers full game." -bowroflarms You are the simple-minded one. LOL, a sheep that follows the herd that will follow its master no matter where he/she goes. Well, I already accepted there are plenty of stupid people in the world long ago. :sleep:
I'm from LA and a lakers fan but I have to go with Lebron, althought kobe is great but Lebron make everything seem so easied...
kb24 HAHA...kobe man... yeah LBJ is bigger and stronger, but kobe got the confidence and experience.... we all saw the gold medal game in the olympics... who carried the usa to the gold in the final minute?... KOBE!!!!... then it's Wade.... if you ask me... I think LBJ is 3rd in line... sad how everyone forgot about wade... he'll bounce back this season...
ManiacFreak You talk really loud about kobe's TO... but forgot to mention how he had a 35 ppg average for a season, forgot to mentioned his 81 point game, forgot to mention him hitting12 three pointer in one game... you want to call out, how kobe chokes when it comes to big games (finals i assume)... last final i saw kobe had to carry the whole team on his back... where was gasol, where was odom, they were the one that choked, not kobe... you expect a guy to take on 3 all star. potential hall of famers... if you don't who i am refering to those 3 all star is KG, pierce, ray allen... all 3 of those guys can't win it on there own with their role players, so they need to come together to win it all... I don't know how often you play ball... the amount of time in which the ball is in kobe's hand, average 3 TO is not too shabby... other guys throw the ball to him with like 3 sec left in the shot clock... of course he's going to jack up a bad shot... YOu want to preach how Odom has a shot... lol... yeah... he does... but 1/2 the time it bricks...is that consider having a jumpshot?...Odom doesn't have the presence of Rodmon... shouldn't base a player's talent strictly on stats... but what he brings to the table... last time i check rodman got 5 rings correct me if i am wrong... all those rings was won with him in the starting lineup...not on the bench... if you ask me... i rather have rodman on my team than odom... odom so streaky i need a bottle of window watching him play... can't wait for this coming season... we dont need odom to do anything but rebound and that's it... i wouldn't hold my breathe counting on him to be 3rd option...GO LAKERS!!!
Occ from La... a Laker fan... but a Kobe-hater... like many people out there... i have to agree with you, that Lebron makes it look easier for his teammates... if you were playing ball, and down the stretch... with couple minutes to play... would you want kobe on your team or would you want lebron on your team? you might want to watch the USA/Spain gold medal game before you answer the questions have a nice day!!!
Kobe of course, he has the experience and skills. Lebron is good on the other hand. But does not match up with what kobe can do
Typical Kobe homer. If you're going to chuck 27 shots a game, 35PPG is pretty normal. While we are talking about playoff performance, he averaged 27PPG in the playoff that year. Talk about choking. I think you need to read the post first before even responding. The argument is why he averaged more TO in the playoff than in the season, where he usually play more per minutes. Half the time = 50%? Isn't that great? LMAO. FYI, Kobe's shooting percentage (not including layup and dunk) is lower than Odom in the past two seasons. And please go back to my previous post and read up again. Odom's offense is better than Rodman. I'm not arguing their whole game. Just the offensive side of the ball. Of course you don't need Odom when Kobe's getting 30+ shots a game while Gasol for the 20+ shots. If Kobe is smart, he won't stop ballhogging the ball and shared with his teammates.
Kobe is a better play maker, has more creativity than LeBron and makes others play better around him. In the clutch, I would give the ball to Kobe; not Lebron yet...
Micheal Jordan...kidding....I like Lebron. Although at young age, he has matured mentality. So far has not done any stupid yet like a lot of the NBA players ... i.e. drug,
i think lbj is a much better player overrall..his much stronger than kobe...lbj will improve with age and experience
Lebron will never be anything untill he wins a championship. Lets wait till he wins one till u start to compare them.
Kobe !!!! but Lebron is nice also. on the us team, lebron played 1-5. he even played center. now that's just insane. Kobe can hit the shot with distance a million times better than Lebron but, Kobe don't have as much ups as Lebron. Lebron is built like tank. Kobe is more a finesse player. they're both good in my opinion. i just feel kobe is a point better. then again, kobe's experience in the nba is twice as much as lebron. i mean kobe played against the great MJ and dropped 33 in one game. the most Lebron was able to do is go against kobe. Lebron didnt have the opportunity to go against MJ and learn from him
Kobe. Other than that playoff game against the pistons a couple years back, lebron doesnt have the killer insticnt to finish a game/team. Kobe is that guy you want taking the last shot and is the better defensive player. How many times has James scored 81?
